Working up a load - Uberti .45

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I have read questionable sources indicating the Uberti is stronger than the Colt it cloned, and old data allows for 10 grains of Unique. I would like to work up to 10 grains and see what I learn.

but doesn’t give the CUP pressure.

. Missing pressure data,

Is there a way to determine the pressures generated?

Is there a way to determine max charge for a 255 gr LSWC?

So I now know for certain what the maximum pressure is that my pistol can withstand. What I still need to learn, is how I will determine the actual pressures generated.

My Lyman’s 49th lacks pressure data on many, many loads

also lacking pressure data.

Not sure why you think I’m obsessed.

Here's the thing... you will never be able to determine chamber pressure for your firearm without pressure testing equipment. There are pressure signs you can look for... everything from sooty cases, to flattened or pierced primers, all the way to a mangled firearm... but those don't give you any sort of number you are looking for, they are just indicators, much like chronograph data. Further, there are upteen differences in a loaded cartridge that would contribute to higher or lower pressures vs published data... everything from case volume to bullet coating... and that's before you even put it in your firearm, with it's very different tolerances. There is a phrase... 'tolerance stacking...' that would be at play here. There is nothing in a loading manual that is absolute... except that the data published was 'exactly' what they came up with in their testing that day.

I'm not saying pressure isn't relevant, what I'm saying is it's only a small piece of the puzzle, and one you cannot readily measure or even accurately estimate. QuickLoad is about as close as a layman can get to specifically generated load and pressure data, but as you mentioned, it can be very inaccurate.... but it can be another piece of the puzzle you are trying to find.
 
Not sure why you think I’m obsessed.
the rest of the charlie98 sentence answers that question. you are asking us permission to go past 8.5 grains and we are saying "no". it is that simple.

your gun will not handle a steady diet of 8.5 to 10 grains unique under a 255 grain lswc bullet. that is our (my) opinion on this matter. a ruger handgun will handle a steady diet of this load.

my message to those watching is to stay within the reloading manual limits.

luck,

murf
 
yep I agree guys as I own two heritage big bore revolvers 4 3/4in barrels in 45 colt and my load I make are one, I cast my own bullet out of a old lyman single cavity part# 454 190 and then I lube these in lee alox then size these to .457 and relube them after the sizer. then I load these bullets with 6.8grs of greendot powder and these perform very well in both pistols and my rossi r92 lever action in 45 colt. now I also make a ruger only load for ONLY MY ROSSI R92 LEVER ACTION RIFLE AS I DO NOT SHOOT THESE IN THE TWO PISTOLS! this ruger only load is sierra 300gr with h110 powder and this is a canon in my lever action rifle when set off!! but for the life of me even my cast 250gr with 6.8grs greendot should take down a black bear with no problem!
 
It's simple.
8.0 grains of Hercules (now Alliant) Unique with a 250 grain lead RNFP has been the standard load in a nitro-proofed 20th century or later Colt SAA since the beginning of time.
Same with clones.
Reloading manuals may not list the pressures but it is guaranteed that they will be lower than the conservative SAAMI maximum of 14,000 CUP.
Buy a Ruger Blackhawk for those heavier loads.
 
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I always thought those were the craziest pistols...

They were. Ned Buntline, a dime novellist, gifted these 12" long barreled revolvers to Old West personalities, complete with a detachable shoulder stock. Most recipients had the barrels cut down to standard lengths.
 
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