Glock 17 Review

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Kawamax

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I recently bought my first Glock (a 17) and I wanted to report my impressions and results with it. I have always respected Glocks for what they are (reliable, well priced, accurate, durable) but due to the triggers I have always felt that they were not for me. My background is mostly SA triggers (Sigs and 1911s) and I just couldn’t get past the trigger feel of the Glocks that I borrowed at the range.

Due to the reading that I’ve done on THR it appeared that the Glock trigger can be greatly improved with aftermarket parts, so I decided that it would get added to my list of the next guns to get.

I have joked with my friends that any gun I buy gets a “death sentence”, as it’s going to be mine until I die. However, lately I’ve decided to get rid of guns that I never use and buy something that I will use. When I bought the Glock I was looking for a G17 or a CZ75, and since the LGS was out of CZ75s due to the panic(s) the choice was simple. The CZ, like a really nice AR, will just have to wait for later. :)

My first impression of the Glock was mostly positive as it fit my hand well and it looked good. The sights (view image) were fine although I was not excited about plastic. The trigger was just OK – a longish, kinda crunchy DA. (Note that my bias is that I generally use and prefer SA triggers. YMMV.) Once I got it home it broke down easily so I could check the action and lube before I shot it. Everything fit well and went back together nicely with no issues.

When I took it to the range, the good news is that the pair of us shot reasonably well for a first time. Also, I had exactly zero issues of any kind in the 70 rounds I ran through it. Perceived recoil (for 9mm) seemed maybe a bit less than usual. Maybe it’s just my imagination, I don’t know. But it’s at least on par with my Sigs or Kimber.

Note that I expect that I am probably the limiting factor for accuracy, not the Glock. I don't have a Ransom rest so I can't report the group size.

As expected, the trigger was still “meh” with live ammo. Also, something that I did not expect was that over time the trigger wore a sore spot on my finger. I’m not sure if it was the Glock trigger safety or the small gap between the trigger and the trigger guard that got me, but it was starting to not feel good so I stopped at 70 rounds. Eventually I expect I’d get a blister or a callus at that point.

The trigger feel and wear was not a major issue for me, as I had already decided to buy an Apex trigger.

To preserve my ammo stocks, I’ve been buying ammo at the range when I can. (They limit you to 1-2 boxes.) It’s whatever they have available time for the range ammo, so the first 20 rounds were CCI Blazer 115 gr. FMJ, and the last 50 rounds were Federal frangible rounds. The Federal shot fine, but due to the pinkish red tips it seemed like I was loading lipstick into my mags. :)

As expected, disassembling the Glock and cleaning it was easy. I do have to note that I am not excited about having to pull the trigger to remove the slide. It’s mostly just due to not having to do that for my other firearms, and the fact that needing to check the chamber has to be 100.00% for this firearm. Still, while I note it, it’s not really an issue.

And yes, I would agree that before cleaning _any_ gun the chamber check should always be 100.00% as well. But if a mistake were to happen, with good trigger safety (i.e., I don’t pull the trigger) my Sigs are still safe when removing the slide. The Glock is not “safe” in this case where a mistake has been made. Being an engineer, I know that nothing is 100.00% - particularly if there is a human involved (me in this case). So when I can get it, I prefer that it takes two mistakes for an AD vs. one mistake. Still, all guns have idiosyncrasies and this is the Glock’s...

While the gun was apart for cleaning I put in an Apex trigger. The process was very straightforward and all of the function tests passed after I was done. I have to admit that one of the things that attracted me to the Glock was the easy ability to modify it, and so far this is very true. I have a new set of sights for it as well, but that will be a later day. The trigger does feel better now and I am looking forward to taking it to the range later this week. Hopefully the finger issue is resolved as well and I can put a couple of hundred of rounds through it.

Overall I am very happy with my new Glock. I don’t intend to sell any of my Sigs or 1911s, but the Glock can also sleep easy at night knowing that it’s place in my safe is secure. :) Like I noted earlier, the next gun is now a CZ 75, but the one after that could very well be a compact Glock. Happy Shooting.
 
Kawamax: said:
...I had already decided to buy an Apex trigger.

I have a drop-in Apex trigger assy. in my Gen3 17 and I have the Apex connector and FPB plunger with the stock G17 trigger assy. takeoff in my Gen3 19, and I can highly recommend either setup
 
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over time the trigger wore a sore spot on my finger. I’m not sure if it was the Glock trigger safety
Stock glock triggers do that to me too.

I had a DIP trigger in my p80c and with polishing, connector and spring swaps, it became quite good. Never get rid of all the squish, but a very useable trigger.
 
Congrats on your first Glock.

it appeared that the Glock trigger can be greatly improved with aftermarket parts
Before you replace the factory trigger, try dry firing like 1000 times and see what kind of holes you produce on target.

my list of the next guns to get.
If you want to buy Glocks that are more accurate out of the box (Or any pistol), dry fire while watching the front sight. Since Glocks are assembled using mass produced modular parts, some Glocks will jerk/jump the front sight when the striker is released and slams on the backside of breech face wall. Also, unbroken-in trigger part surfaces can influence the trigger travel and as the striker is pulled back and released, can add input to the front sight jerk/jump movement.

So handle several Glocks and choose the one that doesn't move the front sight or move the front sight the least to buy and you will start out with more accurate Glock that will get even more accurate as trigger parts break in.

Here's an example of factory Glock accuracy with factory trigger that's been broken in well - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/rmr-180gr-fmj-rnfp.847523/#post-11050244

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As to shooting smaller groups, consider these:

Enjoy your Glock!
 
LiveLife: said:
Before you replace the factory trigger, try dry firing like 1000 times and see what kind of holes you produce on target

I would normally agree with the idea of shooting the Glock OEM trigger assy. for a period of time before making a change to most of the aftermarket Glock triggers, particularly if it’s a Gen4 or 5. However, on my Gen3’s the Apex gives a nice rolling trigger break and you don’t replace any of the springs. Note that I don’t recommend changing the OEM striker spring, the OEM FPB spring, or the OEM trigger return spring, which is why I really like the Apex trigger setup. So I would make an exception here.
 
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Would someone please tell me, is a Glock 17 the same size frame and barrel length as a Glock 22. I know the 17 is a 9 MM and the 22 is a 40 S&W. I have a Gen 3 Glock 22 and I am interested in buying the exact same pistol in 9 MM. Glock has so many model numbers it's confusing. Thanks.
 
Would someone please tell me, is a Glock 17 the same size frame and barrel length as a Glock 22. I know the 17 is a 9 MM and the 22 is a 40 S&W. I have a Gen 3 Glock 22 and I am interested in buying the exact same pistol in 9 MM. Glock has so many model numbers it's confusing. Thanks.

Some generations may have slight difference between the G22 and G17. But generally, yes they're the same dimensions. Gen5s may not be.
 
Would someone please tell me, is a Glock 17 the same size frame and barrel length as a Glock 22. I know the 17 is a 9 MM and the 22 is a 40 S&W. I have a Gen 3 Glock 22 and I am interested in buying the exact same pistol in 9 MM. Glock has so many model numbers it's confusing. Thanks.

I have a Glock 22 that I got cheaply as a LE turn-in. I bought a $99 conversion barrel and a $24 magazine. Now it is a Glock 17 whenever I feel like investing 30 seconds into changing the barrel and mag.
 
FFGColorado - thank you, that is a great comparison site.
P5 Guy, I have already bought and installed the Apex trigger, but the link may help someone else.

And as JDR notes, the Apex kit doesn't change any of the springs.
 
Kawamax, congrats on your new Glock.
Like you I was a Single Action guy - 1911s and revolvers. I had moved to North Carolina and had given my last 1911 to my daughter. I met some guys that invited me to shoot IDPA with them and one Gent loaned me a Glock 17. I have pretty much been a Glock guy ever since. The only Glock I never cared for was a Gen 3 G19. The finger grooves didn’t match my hands so rather than modify it I sold it.

Enjoy your new Glock.
 
Would someone please tell me, is a Glock 17 the same size frame and barrel length as a Glock 22. I know the 17 is a 9 MM and the 22 is a 40 S&W. I have a Gen 3 Glock 22 and I am interested in buying the exact same pistol in 9 MM. Glock has so many model numbers it's confusing. Thanks.
The Glock 17 and the 22 are the same size. The Gen 3 take the same aftermarket triggers, and connectors. The easiest up grade to the action is replacing the factory connector with a 3.5 by one of the many companies that make them.
 
My first was a 17c back in 2002 and then I sold it for a 75b in 2007 and was a CZ guy until last year. However as I witness the world changing I remembered what a Army instructor told me in 2007, that I was making a big tactical mistake, and I laughed it off at the time. Recently I got to understanding what he meant. If there becomes a SHTF moment I wanted the simpler, cheaper to own, easy to maintain, lighter weight , mag commonality firearm. The CZ was great, but I bought several Glocks and Glock mag taking AR carbines/pistols instead. Get a 19, 26 or AR9/pcc instead of the CZ and a bunch of Glock 9mm mags instead Is my recommendation but whichever way keep shooting and enjoy.
 
Would someone please tell me, is a Glock 17 the same size frame and barrel length as a Glock 22. I know the 17 is a 9 MM and the 22 is a 40 S&W. I have a Gen 3 Glock 22 and I am interested in buying the exact same pistol in 9 MM. Glock has so many model numbers it's confusing. Thanks.

Sage, get one of the Bear Creek Glock 22/17 conversion barrels. I have a couple and they work 100%. They are cheap ~ $50 ish, reliable and work far bette than others I’ve tried.

... Well prices have gone up, now ~$100, still worth it.
https://www.bearcreekarsenal.com/bc...rel-stainless-steel-finish-threaded-unbranded
 
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