New WASR AK

Century stuff is pretty much luck on the draw. Somes ok...somes good...somes well......

Ive had good and bad luck with them. I have a wasr ak I bought in the early 2000s that A OK. Shoots about as well as a AK should. Got one if their Yugo SKSs that pieced the primers every shot. I should have sent it back, but at the time I was busy and just forgot about it. Few years ago I got it back out and did a little research. Found a guy in Texas who fixed it for me. Common defect with those Yugo SKSs. Sent him the bolt...got it back...works like clock work now.

Having an AK sight tool is almost a must. They make it much easier to make adjustments as needed, and you will. AK ammo is anything but consistent.

Loading for it is not very economical. Reloadable brass is rare and expensive..plus hard to recover them all after a day on the range...and its an AK...not accurate by design...only accurate to minute of man at 300 meters no matter what you do..

That seems like a Cugir issue more than just centrury is bad, as century had no part in the manufacturing and more companies than just century have imported cugir made weapons. Canted barrel components can affect pretty much every AKM build out there due to the process of how they are built. Chances are century might just send you a whole new gun and then sell yours as a fixer upper. Ive used PB blaster and a bit of propane torch heating to move front sight posts and sights in the past with much success.

lionking said:

I shipped it back to Century yesterday let's see what happens now. Had to pay for the shipping I guess some companies won't cover that someone told me Ruger is like that also.

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What's your expectation of Century?
You needed an AK sight tool to adjust the front sight.

drobs said:

What's your expectation of Century?
You needed an AK sight tool to adjust the front sight.

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He said his rear block was canted, see post #5. No sight tool is going to fix that! OP should get a new rifle from Century.

My century AK is great. Guess I'm one of the lucky ones. Sights are where they are supposed to be. Always goes bang. Not a fan of the wood.

I'm going to a store to check out a private seller's WASR-10 Saturday, I'm looking forward to it. Is canted sights and rivet dimpling all I should look for? 2016 manufacturer date, never been fired.

depends on the WASR, if its made with commercial parts and then was converted to standard cap check the mag well as they were sometimes overmilled. The 10-63 which were built out of parts kits in romanian tend to be a little better. Easiest way to tell the difference is to look for a triangle with an arrow in it on the the trunion. That'll tell you the date of the 10/63 of the parts kit it was built out of or if its a commercial gun it will tell you the date of import.

Foxxy Gunner said:

I'm going to a store to check out a private seller's WASR-10 Saturday, I'm looking forward to it. Is canted sights and rivet dimpling all I should look for? 2016 manufacturer date, never been fired.

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Normally, "never been fired" is a good thing, but in this case, it is a BAD thing. Century's warranty policy lasts 1 year from their rifle's initial sale (back in 2016), so there won't be any warranty if the rifle is defective, and it's never been tested to see if it is.

https://www.centuryarms.com/media/wysiwyg/pdf/Warranty_and_Return_v03062019.pdf

My Century AK wouldn't cycle a single round when it first came straight out of the box and had to go back to the mothership for repair. Now I'm not saying that's common for every Century AK, but their rifles tend to have more problems with worksmanship than most brands. If that WASR has a problem, it could end up being pretty difficult and expensive to repair. I'd feel much better if that rifle could pass a test firing.

Folks, to avoid possible confusion at times, please state whether a "Century AK" was a rifle:
A) Imported by the company, or
B) Designed by Century.

With many Romanian WASRs, the sight cant was allowed to pass, by the Romanian Cugir company, before it was exported to the US. That's what some guys on AKfiles claimed not too long ago.
Apparently companies in other countries, even Hungary (my AMD-65), allowed a huge number of AKMs or variations to be exported with canted sights.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...27C0E798E7ADA9F75ADC27C&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

"Iraqiveteran8888" shows us what he checks for when buying AKs.
He is a very seasoned gun owner, both buyer and seller, for what it's worth.

Ignition Override said:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...27C0E798E7ADA9F75ADC27C&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

"Iraqiveteran8888" shows us what he checks for when buying AKs.
He is a very seasoned gun owner, both buyer and seller, for what it's worth.

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What I check for when buying AKs, is an AR.

GunnyUSMC: Young glass-hopper, you funny!

I would love my German friend's '85 Colt "green box" AR (partly due to the long aperture sight distance), but I could not justify the approx. $1800 market price.

GunnyUSMC said:

What I check for when buying AKs, is an AR.

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Some people prefer a Louisville Slugger to a wiffle bat...

ive very rarely seen a WASR have any issues aside from the canted gas block/ sight blocks and over milling of the mag well.

Swampman said:

Some people prefer a Louisville Slugger to a wiffle bat...

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That’s why I like AR’s.
The problem with most AK’s is that they are just parts guns. When buying a used one is a shot in the dark. And it’s a proven fact that buying a new one can also be a shot in the dark. It’s a shame that if you want a good AK, you have to spend a lot of money.

GunnyUSMC said:

That’s why I like AR’s.
The problem with most AK’s is that they are just parts guns. When buying a used one is a shot in the dark. And it’s a proven fact that buying a new one can also be a shot in the dark. It’s a shame that if you want a good AK, you have to spend a lot of money.

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Thats not really factual, there are plenty of AKs for a reasonable dollar, you just have to be able to do your research and know what you are looking at. I just picked up an FEG SA-2000m for 575 off of GB, All Hungarian made import from the early 2000s. I also have a WUM-1 on the way which is one of the first Romanian variants ever imported for 700. Domestically made AKs tend to be built from parts kits but there are plenty of affordable low cost imports out there.

teddybear1848 said:

Thats not really factual, there are plenty of AKs for a reasonable dollar, you just have to be able to do your research and know what you are looking at. I just picked up an FEG SA-2000m for 575 off of GB, All Hungarian made import from the early 2000s. I also have a WUM-1 on the way which is one of the first Romanian variants ever imported for 700. Domestically made AKs tend to be built from parts kits but there are plenty of affordable low cost imports out there.

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Yes, this is true, but you still run the chance of canted sights and poor fitting. I would much prefer to build an AR in 7.62x39 with new parts for what a used AK sells for.

teddybear1848 said:

Thats not really factual, there are plenty of AKs for a reasonable dollar, you just have to be able to do your research and know what you are looking at. I just picked up an FEG SA-2000m for 575 off of GB, All Hungarian made import from the early 2000s. I also have a WUM-1 on the way which is one of the first Romanian variants ever imported for 700. Domestically made AKs tend to be built from parts kits but there are plenty of affordable low cost imports out there.

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Good deal on the FEG, had one years ago. Years ago I collected nothing but Romanian type AKs from the 54r down to their 9mm, all made in Romania....all ran reliably

These are in stock:
https://www.arsenalinc.com/usa/rear-sight-assembly-with-adjustable-windage.html



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In the past 20 years I've purchased 3 WASR/SAR's, 2 Yugo M70's and 3 VZ 2008's. All purchased sight unseen from either Century, Aim Surplus or PSA. Out of 8 rifles not one came with canted sights.

Seven or eight years ago I ordered a PTR 91 for my youngest son, upon arrival it looked like this.

PTR fixed the problem quickly, but it shows that any company can have a screw up and then fail to catch the problem in QC.

GunnyUSMC said:

Yes, this is true, but you still run the chance of canted sights and poor fitting. I would much prefer to build an AR in 7.62x39 with new parts for what a used AK sells for.

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Good for you!

But if you really want to post about AR's vs AK's, why don't you do it in one of the 7,000,000 threads dedicated to that topic?

Or just start your own?

Swampman said:

In the past 20 years I've purchased 3 WASR/SAR's, 2 Yugo M70's and 3 VZ 2008's. All purchased sight unseen from either Century, Aim Surplus or PSA. Out of 8 rifles not one came with canted sights.

Seven or eight years ago I ordered a PTR 91 for my youngest son, upon arrival it looked like this.
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PTR fixed the problem quickly, but it shows that any company can have a screw up and then fail to catch the problem in QC.

Good for you!

But if you really want to post about AR's vs AK's, why don't you do it in one of the 7,000,000 threads dedicated to that topic?

Or just start your own?

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Don’t get all upset . I don’t believe that this topic is about how great AKs are. In fact it’s about an AK that is screwed up enough that it has to go back.
I started off by posting a joke.
Most AKs are over priced for what you get. Most don’t shoot better then an Mini 14, which are famous for their accuracy. Right?
A true AK47 is a nice weapon and works great for what it was intended for. But many here have never healed a real AK, much less fired one.
Me shooting a Chicom AK47 in full auto.

And I was not posting about the ARs vs AKs. All I said was that I would prefer to build an AR in 7.62x39 with new parts, for what it would cost to buy a used AK.
I never said I didn’t like the AK. Just stated the fact that there are a lot of not so well built ones out there.

the AK and AR fans have two very different doctrines. I prefer the AK over the AR simply because I could fabricate my own parts for it if I have to. Assembling an AR is way easier than a AK, but of you dont have the parts then it gets tricky. Also as far as the accuracy thing goes, with a CHF barrel and good ammo you should be able to land shots nicely at 250 yards with the irons all day. If not you could probably use some more practice. I also prefer the stock Iron sights over the AR stock iron sights.

Foxxy Gunner said:

I'm going to a store to check out a private seller's WASR-10 Saturday, I'm looking forward to it. Is canted sights and rivet dimpling all I should look for? 2016 manufacturer date, never been fired.

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Make sure the magazine isn’t ridiculously loose in the magwell. Other than that, you should be good to go.

I had a 2002-ish Century SAR-1 (predecessor of the WASR) that I really enjoyed; of all the rifles I’ve ever sold, I miss that one the most.