CMP Garand

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Well, I had been putting off ordering a Garand from the CMP for years (decades even), but thankfully I put in an order a few months ago prior to them marking the Service Grade as sold out.

Rifle finally came in today, and I have to say I'm quite happy with it.

It's a Springfield (no surprise there), but its actual WWII era production (May 1943) and has an original rather than reproduction stock. Metal finish is GOOD, but not so good that it looks freshly refinished (if it has been it was while it was still in at least light service - there's a bit of wear on the usual spots like the charging handle). Muzzle rating 2, throat 3+.

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That is a nicer-looking case than what mine arrived in last year. The metal looks to be better-preserved, as well. What is that blue block in the top left corner of the case, out of curiosity?
 
Even with a 2/3 me/t it’ll be a decent shooter. Average for a Garand is about 2.5-3moa with GOOD ammo, and 4-6moa with service grade. Yours should do that or perhaps better.

Nice catch! I’ve gotten three rifles and 4-air guns. Satisfied with all.
Yes! The new cases are NICE!
 
Everything I see in your pics looks to be Springfield, the front sight, the bands and the op-rod. The milled trigger guard is defiantly WW II. You might want to pull that op-rod out and see if it is uncut. A friend recently got his CMP Garand, in the 800,000 range and it had an uncut op-rod. Those are rather hard to find and they bring a premium. It is puzzling how it escaped being cut, because that operation was automatically done during a rebuild. The drawing # on his op-rod is correct for the serial# , so it appears to be original to the gun.

Your rifle has been through a rebuild program at some point, that windage knob looks to be a post- WW II replacement. It is almost impossible to find a Garand that hasn't been rebuilt by the government at some point. It would be interesting to do a data sheet on your rifle. You never know what you might find. My friend's rifle also came with a Winchester gas cylinder and front sight, complete with punch mark. Another hard to fine item! If he wanted to part out the rifle he would probably get more than he paid for it!!!

Garand's are more fun than a monkey with a hand grenade. Enjoy yours !!!
 
Looks like the OP got a nice Garand.

The USGI stocks always look better than than the new replacement stocks as long as the USGI stocks are not beat up.

The case is an improvement over the old, egg crate foam lined cases that came with some of my Garands.
 
I think you did well. Enjoy. I remember the day I got my M1 Carbine from CMP. Smiles were the expression of the day.
 
My CMP Garand came in a cardboard box.
So did my DCM National Match Garand, way back in the 1970's. I've kept the box, because it undoubtedly adds value. (Back then, you were limited to one per lifetime. You had to send in a competitive scorecard to be eligible.)
 
Oh yeah, I like that new case. The CMP is a treasure for the shooting community. My last Garand, service class, came with a NOS stock and NOS barrel which the CMP brought to new condition. I'll happily supply the wear marks.

Congrats on getting one of particular interest for you. Please let us know how it shoots.

Jeff
 
You might want to pull that op-rod out and see if it is uncut.

The op-rod is cut. Would have been a nice surprise if it wasn't, but it's not that big a deal for me.

Very nice Service Grade M1 Rifle.
More picks, including the Bbl. markings.

Here are a few of the markings from the barrel, op-rod, and bolt. Didn't want to remove the rear handguard so I didn't get the drawing # from barre, but the date code indicates Jan 1944 for the barrel. Probably a rebarrel as that seems a bit too far from the 3/1943 for the receiver to be original, but still war-time production so it's all good :).

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The op-rod is cut. Would have been a nice surprise if it wasn't, but it's not that big a deal for me.



Here are a few of the markings from the barrel, op-rod, and bolt. Didn't want to remove the rear handguard so I didn't get the drawing # from barre, but the date code indicates Jan 1944 for the barrel. Probably a rebarrel as that seems a bit too far from the 3/1943 for the receiver to be original, but still war-time production so it's all good :).

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Honey of a rifle.

Old parts on an old SN rifle.

44JAN re-Bbl could indicate conflict service.

Field conditions and minimal maintenance w/ corrosive ammo was far worse on Bbl's that actual shooting.

The "-12SA" bolt is in the OEM window, but the "3 SA" Op-rod is a little early at 42NOV, but not impossible.


Any cartouches on the stock?




GR
 
I picked up a CMP service grade Garand at the CMP store at Camp Perry, Ohio some years ago. It came in a nice case. Good shooter. Last time I was at Perry, two years ago, there were way fewer on the racks.
I did not know about the Op rod until this thread. I will have to check it.
Pete
 
Somewhere around here I have an uncut op rod. They are really only worth something to someone who wants to put together a correct rifle. I also have a small pile of barrels suitable as tomato stakes. :)

Ron
 
IIRC the Op Rod relief cut was done as some sort of stress relief solution due to the pressures at that point. Especially when launching grenades. If my memory is correct that's where the op rod would break when subject to excessive stress. But don't quote me. Even I don't trust my memory fully any more. Luckily there's not much call for M-1's set up for grenade launching these days.
 
Why did they cut the op rod?
From our friends at CMP which runs with what I have read.
"The relief cut is made to relieve stress on the metal at the point of angular connection. This cut is especially critical when firing grenades so as not to crack the operating rod". I also recall reading that while the relief cut was adopted no M1 Garand ever had a fracture at that point. All WWII operating rods were manufactured without the 5/16" cut. They were modified with a 3/16" relief cut. The 5/16" cut were manufactured that way all post WWII.

Ron
 
IIRC the Op Rod relief cut was done as some sort of stress relief solution due to the pressures at that point. Especially when launching grenades. If my memory is correct that's where the op rod would break when subject to excessive stress. But don't quote me. Even I don't trust my memory fully any more. Luckily there's not much call for M-1's set up for grenade launching these days.
That has always been my read so I figure your memory is just fine. :)

Ron
 
I built an M1 Garand at the Advanced Maintenance Class at CMP South inn 2015. I picked a SA receiver ser. no. 22222xx, which I believe was forged in Nov. 1943. Accordingly, I picked as many period correct parts as I could easily identify including an uncut op rod, lock bar sights, round top gas lock, and all SA trigger group and bolt. All parts are reparkerized; only the barrel is not GI...a new Criterion barrel. As a concession to old age, I did choose an IHC front sight for its wide ears to make the front sight easier for an old man to see. It has worked wonderfully through the 7 clips run through it.

I heartily recommend CMP rifles to anyone who wants an M1 Garand.
 
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