On that "Good Neighborhood" Idea Again.

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The OP is not about carrying a gun.

The essence is that one should not go looking for trouble.

How this thread turned into which firearm to use is beyond me. It has nothing to do with the OP not carrying a gun or which firearm to carry. The thread was Hijacked by the same poster,
The OP is about the needless confrontation toward the attacker. These confrontations which there are so many, result in bad consequences. A home owners goal is to prevent a confrontation, not get into one. I was in the industry of Electronic alarm systems for decades. Even designed Gates for communities.
There is a misconception about these gates. They are not meant to protect each individual home owner from Burglary, Invasion etc. In these type of communities you would typically find homeowners that would also get their Private Home Security system. They would take the same defense as other people that live outside of the gated communities.
But gated or non gated the point of the OP is to NOT engage a criminal when not necessary. And Avoid at all cost. I could go into a dozen ways a home alarm would have greatly aided the Home owner but that could go into pages.
The bottom line would have been to lock the house as tight as possible get into a safe room or at least the family into a safe room and call the police.
Leaving the fortress of the home is a BAD idea. To go into the Street to face a criminal is scary enough for a Trained Police Officer or Officers.
 
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That is not the topic at hand.

It's a proper topic for a different discussion.
The thread title indicates it's following up the "good neighborhood" idea, that in a "good neighborhood" a person doesn't need to be prepared to defend him/herself or alternatively does not need to be as well prepared as in some other location. Stating that regardless of the location a person should carry a weapon s/he feels competent in using fits IMO. I wouldn't carry my Model 36 that I can't shoot well in a "good neighborhood" just because it's smaller and lighter and a need to defend myself might be statistically less likely there.
 
How this thread turned into which firearm to use is beyond me. It has nothing to do with the OP not carrying a gun or which firearm to carry. The thread was Hijacked by the same poster,
The OP is about the needless confrontation toward the attacker. These confrontations which there are so many, result in bad consequences. A home owners goal is to prevent a confrontation, not get into one. I was in the industry of Electronic alarm systems for decades. Even designed Gates for communities.
There is a misconception about these gates. They are not meant to protect each individual home owner from Burglary, Invasion etc. In these type of communities you would typically find homeowners that would also get their Private Home Security system. They would take the same defense as other people that live outside of the gated communities.
But gated or non gated the point of the OP is to NOT engage a criminal when not necessary. And Avoid at all cost. I could go into a dozen ways a home alarm would have greatly aided the Home owner but that could go into pages.
The bottom line would have been to lock the house as tight as possible get into a safe room or at least the family into a safe room and call the police.
Leaving the fortress of the home is a BAD idea. To go into the Street to face a criminal is scary enough for a Trained Police Officer or Officers.
Personally I would not leave my home in the event of a break-in attempt. And I have invested a not-insignificant amount of money in hardening it to make breaking in much more difficult.
 
Post #26 bears repeating and re-reading until it sinks in
 
I say that "bad" people are not immobile nor completely nocturnal; "they" may come to the "good" place during daylight.
I encourage carrying a concealable pistol that would be preferred in hand if one had to defend themself, regardless of location.
Location nor time of day factored, no statistics, just what would be preferred in hand if one had to defend their life.
There is nowhere I'd rather defend myself with a pocket 380/38 snub rather than a Glock 19/23.
So, for me, that means carrying at least a Glock 19 (more likely Glock 23) wherever.
Those content to carry (bet their life) a 22lr / 32 when they could do better, I do not understand it. Oh well.

"Here we go again". What? o_O
I posted my preference, stating that I prefer a Glock 19/23 over something "lesser" is not me turning a thread into a "caliber war".
Most certainly I'd rather have a Glock 19/23 in hand rather than a pocket 380/38 snub if I had to defend myself and I carry accordingly.
Critique what I wrote and begin with "Here we go again". o_O A case of ...
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No, but it certainly didn't have anything to do with he topic at hand.

My initial reply was about "good places" and how "bad" people may show up, like happened in the story in OP.
Carry includes home, a "good place" and for me that is a Glock 19/23 - seems directly related to the original topic.

Subsequently another forum member states that my post was trying to make a "caliber war" - which I was not.
In a "good area" (including home) I'm going to be carrying at least a Glock 23.

The people that got beat with a bat (story in OP) probably wish they had a firearm handy.
I live in a "good area" (neighborhood) - thread title- yet still carry at home (Glock 23 minimum).
 
My initial reply was about "good places" and how "bad" people may show up, like happened in the story in OP.
Yes.

Carry includes home, a "good place" and for me that is a Glock 19/23 - seems directly related to the original topic.
The OP spoke of bad people showing up and of what can happen when one goes looking for trouble--nothing about "carry".

In a "good area" (including home) I'm going to be carrying at least a Glock 23.
that's not a bad idea at all, but it's a different subject

The people that got beat with a bat (story in OP) probably wish they had a firearm handy.
I doubt that that idea rates high in the thoughts of the single survivor.

I live in a "good area" (neighborhood) - thread title- yet still carry at home (Glock 23 minimum).
I live in a good neighborhood and I carry at home also.

I do not choose to carry a Glock.

I would never go outside to investigate trouble.
 
Personally I cannot shoot the teeny-tiny ones well enough to feel comfortable carrying one. I bought a Model 36 from a friend in another state a couple years ago thinking it would be great as a carry gun due to the size. Visiting the range with it disabused me of the idea pretty quickly. I now carry a King Cobra.
HONESTY !!, wow that is too cool.

But as your a woman and not a "man" that has to be a macho man at all time,I am not shocked at your honesty.

I can still shoot the smaller guns pretty well [ at least no smaller than the Ruger LCP ] but if my butt was on the line [ and that is WHY we CCW ].

Then I want as much gun as I can shoot well.

I still love & carry the snubbys,usually as a BUG.
 
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