I'm not one to rant but here I go....

I see what you are talking about but then again I APPRECIATE a gun that can be serviced with common hand tools. My CZ single action only has them and I appreciate not having to use specialty tools on it.

Snowdog said:

Yes, appearing straight from Home Depot.

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Well, I can't see any point using common screws if they aren't at least blued, and preferably clocked to align slots (by cutting the screw heads after final assembly). So there!

I don't seem to have that problem, but this also isn't a $2,200.00 CZ, not that I'd pay that for a working gun.

Snowdog said:

Yes, appearing straight from Home Depot. Perhaps that's a personal quark of mine but it bugs me and bugs me a lot! I don't need a hex or Torx screw but please at least make it a flat head. It's like sporting sandals while wearing a three piece suit. The irk-factor is much subdued when paired with a $140 Hi Point, but for something that can cost 20 times that? Like nails on a chalk board.
It nearly drives me to drink.

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Oooo, yeah totally missed it. I don't find the gun at all attractive, so having the wrong head type on the grip screw doesn't bother me.
If I somehow ended up with one, I'd just change it. I'd also Duracoat the thing something besides black, and/or change the grips and control colors.

Snowdog: said:

Perhaps that's a personal quark of mine but it bugs me and bugs me a lot!

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If you’re going to drop $2K on a CZ then you should have the grip screws and front sight that you like & want on the gun, this is all minor stuff.

For my own CZ 75B I have $460 in the base gun and about $300 in upgrades, including the rubber grips, the CZ Custom F.O. front & blind battlesight rear, trigger work, and the same race hammer that is on that $2K gun. The F.O. front sight darn sure works for me, that’s all I can say!

I am uf the opinion that a base CZ 75B or SA with some CGW or CZ Custom work done to it is all I personally need, but YMMV and it’s all good!

Below is a Limited edition CZ 75 B from 2009. Note the philips head.



Below is a CZ 75 pre B from the early 80s next to a CZ97 from 98 or 99. Note the stand screw in the Pre Bs and the Philips in the CZ.



If this is the first time noticing that then, well, that's kinda on the fella who just discovered it.

CZ has been using the Philips for over a decade on all their pistols (all, as far as I know). Fact is, the Philips screwdriver do not slip as easily as the slotted screwdrivers do and generally are more common than a torx wrench for most folks. Simple choice for a simple reason.

As others have said they are easy to change and cost less than a McDonald's lunch.

Honestly, I never noticed the Phillips screw. '96 Turk Military...and I replaced the grips.

If you like the rest of it, don't worry about the grip screw fastener. Philips is better than straight, every time.

Cue the Czech guy working on the assembly line: "Of course has Phillips head screws. Can take off grips with Swiss Army knife. Can replace at hardware store."

I found it easy, and cheap, to change out the screws for a better look.
Not worth frothing at the mouth over....
I thought it was the "Taurus" bull stamp, actually.

At least its timed...

NIGHTLORD40K said:

Nope, me neither. I see no similiarity with a HiPoint except that both are butt-ugly.......

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LoonWulf said:

Oooo, yeah totally missed it. I don't find the gun at all attractive, so having the wrong head type on the grip screw doesn't bother me.

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My thoughts as well.

mgmorden said:

Can't believe you guys didn't spot that sooner.

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Hard to spot ugly on ugly.

Don't mean to offend but I'm not seeing $2000+ worth of gun there.

I hate those grip panel with alike sand adhesive paper.

bannockburn said:

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^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^

Is what a CZ is supposed to look like

Thread needs more stainless

Here, note the price of this custom gun. $1,899.

https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-custom/cz75-bull-shadow-9mm.html

The price here...

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/cz-custom-cz75-bull-shadow/

Here $1650.

https://czcustom.com/new-firearms/cz-pistols-custom/cz-75-bull-shadow-9mm.html

https://www.gunbroker.com/Pistols/search?Keywords=CZ 75 Bull Shadow&Sort=13

It ain't cheap but...

My Pre-B CZ-75 has standard screws; and my newly acquired CZ-97B has Torx head screws.


Photo courtesy of CZ-USA.com

I personally like Phillips and Flat heads.

As a Jeep owner, I have pure hatred for Torx.

I see this as a win.

For $2,192 I can get 4 surplus Browning High Powers .
And - no billboard on the slide.

As long as we're getting picky , I do not care for the round edged molded-in look of the inscriptions on the CZ slides. Has a plastic look about it.

There aren’t many folks that buy a black CZ for the looks. Their beauty is definitely mechanical, especially ones like this from the CZ Custom shop.

For the price of a McClaren P1 you could buy 18 top of the line Landrover Defenders, but I doubt any of the Landrovers would win a race on pavement.

Thankfully if the looks turn you off on this thing there is an abundance of visual beauty in the firearms world. Someone else will buy the ugly ducklings and enjoy how they shoot.

If the screws bother you Hogue has blued slotted screws for CZs. I have those on one of my guns.

..and just like that heads exploded over the head of a screw.

JeeperCreeper said:

I personally like Phillips and Flat heads.

As a Jeep owner, I have pure hatred for Torx.

I see this as a win.

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Yeah, I'm far more likely to have a Philips of flat head on me, or even a knife blade if I'm desperate, in case the grip panels work loose at the range (had that happen a few times on 1911s), so I don't see the issue. Definitely don't think it detracts from the visual appeal, such as it is. I don't find CZs particularly beautiful anyway. Good working guns anyway.

Some people would bitch if you hung them with a new rope.

Eugen said:

..and just like that heads exploded over the head of a screw.

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My head is fine.
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