Laser Trainer

Been using one for a few years. It shows in my rare range trips. It's a good tool to stay sharp.

Highly recommended.

I have recently begun using a laser trainer cartridge in my 1911 and cz97.
https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Tra...d=1&keywords=CheapShot&qid=1598709330&sr=8-17 It seems to work well. Mine is one release earlier than the linked item and has o-rings for a tight fit. I had to put larger o-rings on it to get a consistent tight fit in my pistols. The newer model does not seem to use o-rings? CheapShot also makes cartridges in most common calibers (9mm, .40sw, .380acp, .45acp).


Also, you need to pair the laser with some type of laser target or app. I use the iTarget.com app (free download) and it works well with a paper target and an old iphone set up on a tripod near the target. It does give you a feel for your accuracy (is consistent in it's use) and will generate a printable target showing your hits for that session.

I have a SIRT pistol, AR bolt, a LaserLyte compact pistol, and multiple laser cartridges. They are fantastic practice aides - more feedback than dryfire practice, without the expense or logistics of live fire. Absolutely worth their weight in gold.

WheelGunMan said:

The one I have is a Taryag. Very similar to yours. I practice on a closet door knob about 30 feet from my recliner. I have found the point of aim to be identical to real world conditions on the range. I've been practicing with it on my P30. Took the P30 out to the range yesterday and was spot on accurate with tight groups compared to my last range session.

I have an Android phone. The only itarget app available is itarget Pro. Says I need their target or sled to make it work.

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Any target will work to show hits with the iTarget app. If you want it to score accurately and give you a numeric score, you should download their printable target. The sled is not required if you have some sort of phone mount for a tripod. I got one off Amazon. Under $10.
The sled is very expensive for what it does, but it does work.

Lasers! I like lots of weird stuff for training in confined areas. Also airsoft (because UTM is expensive!).

Lasers: I don't find much value in special targets, apps, etc. But on the other hand, lack of noise and ballistics means you can practice shooting at anything, anywhere people don't see you. I originally dropped the money on a SIRT pistol when traveling a lot (domestic, by car) and did drills most nights in the hotel.

There, I figured out my favorite way to train. Shoot all light switches, or lights. Either one. Or, something else common in every room, if you want to find or place things. They are small, distinct, hide in corners, etc. Esp in hotels where it also teaches scanning to find them all, this worked great (I did do extended stay, so had a couple rooms), but even in my house, that's enough things I can't really memorize them all.

I do like SIRT a lot better than the cartridge because

1) It's Not A Gun. Cartridge is a bit like dry fire. Much safety procedure needed.
2) Recocking. You can practice much more realistically, instead of training to break grip, charge the gun after each shot.

I don't use the SIRT bolt as much as I should because it's a bit of a hassle to set up. I guess if I was more serious, I'd get another upper dedicated to it, or a whole other AR. But that's a lot.

WheelGunMan said:

To conserve ammo and still become proficient with my firearm I've acquired a laser trainer cartridge. It has given me the ability to become intimately familiar with the grip, the sights and the trigger press on my P30. After several hundred drills I'm confident that my accuracy will be vastly improved when I visit the range again. I've always done a lot of dry fire practice with both my revolvers and pistols and my range visits always prove it to be worthwhile. This laser trainer has taken it to a new level by giving me instant feedback on shot placement. It has also reemphasized the importance of a good grip, sight alignment and trigger press.

It gives me an enjoyable simulated range experience without the expense of ammo. Especially now in these times where ammo shortages have dominated the cost of this hobby. It also helps me to conserve what ammo I do have on hand.

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A few years back I bought a SIRT laser dedicated Glock 17 at the USCCA convention in Louisville Ky.

It was a good price and I get a good deal of training in my basement at a combat target with 2 realistic looking pics of bad guys.

I am VERY happy that I bought this beauty.

Keep up your training and use the holster & cover gear [ if you wear such ] while training.

I had two different laser cartridges and both wore out in short time. Maybe I used them too much, maybe they were earlier models and not very rugged. I wasn't all that impressed, though with the smartphone app I might change my mind were I to try laser again.

I have experienced more improvement with an inertia based trigger analysis tool, like MantisX. Beauty is I can use it dry fire or live fire or with a CO2 based gun. Well worth the added cost over the simpler laser systems.

I've got 3 LaserLyte cartridges that I dryfire practice with.

I set up a little range in my basement and gunroom:





And even with my range literally being out back, I find the dryfire practice extremely helpful. I try to at least get a couple sessions in prior to a match and live-fire.

I have the little laserlyte cartridge and found unless it is seated absolutely perfectly it does not hit at POA.
I have since moved on to a SIRT and find it to be a much better trainer. We keep them at our range and through hundreds of thousande of trigger pulls, they still operate perfectly. I have a full size Glock model as well as a SIRT Pocket Pistol which with a small amount of grip reshaping, can come very close to the shape of your subcompact carry gun.