Secret Service rifle condition?

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Mrs Harris has an event and was accompanied by this guy...
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The secret service agent guarding Mrs. Harris carrying what appears to be an m4. In one photo you can clearly see the agents weapon slung across his chest. The photo is clear enough that you can see the flag of the selector pointed to the rear which of I recall correctly indicates that the weapon is set for fully automatic.

Is it normal for Secret Service members guarding personnel such as Mrs Harris to keep their weapon hot in this manner? What are the chances that the weapon had a chambered round? I’m far from being an expert on how secret service guards their personnel, but this seems dumb, especially with the rhetoric that this particular person has preached in the recent past. Does anybody have insight into what the actual situation would have been with the firearm in question?
 
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Yeah, looks safe.

WestKentucky said:
I’m far from being an expert on how secret service guards their personnel, but this seems dumb, especially with the rhetoric that this particular person has preached in the recent past.
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The Secret Service does not arm themselves based on the rhetoric of those not in their chain of command. In other words, Harris' personal views have nothing to do with the fact of how they are armed or how they proceed.
 
Hmmm, I dont see the orange spring coil in the magazine window. Could be the lighting or angle......or it could be an empty magazine.

The Captain of the USS Blue Ridge recently made some waves by pulling security duty while the ship was in an Italian dry dock. There were many hi-res pics of his rifle with what was clearly an empty PMAG Window in it, and he had no pouches on him for spares.

Ugh, SMH.
 
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Looks like a full mag and the rifle is on safety. The orange indicator coil disappears out of sight after the 28th or 29th round goes in, cant remember which. Pants are quite tight. I thought SS were more secretive though, I thought they had a very strict dress code and carried FN 5.7's, didnt know they went around looking like swat.....
 
mshootnit said:
My favorite was the secret service guy who pulled an UZI out of his sport jacket during the Reagan attack. They look like office managers until the Uzi comes out!
Link to Uzi guy pic:
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/president-reagan-shot-march-30-1981-236656
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The Uzis were carried in special briefcases- you can see one on the ground in front of the car- zoom in and youll see the foam cutout insert to hold the gun and its accessories.
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Amazing contrast to the weapons, apparel, and tactics used today! Other photo angles captured a number of revolvers coming out, M10s, M19s, and what appeared to be at least one Speed Six- but no auto pistols in sight. That pimptastic Caddy too......:confused:
 
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NIGHTLORD40K said:
The Uzis were carried in special briefcases ...
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Not always. I was maybe 8 to 10 feet away from a Secret Service agent as he was preparing for a visit by the Israeli Defense Minister at the Russell Senate Office Building around 1989. He asked us to stand still and keep our hands out of our pockets for a minute or so while the Minister was escorted in. He had an UZI under his jacket, no briefcases in sight. How do I know it was an UZI? I asked him and he answered without hesitation.
 
As pointed out the Secret Service agent in the photo has a full mag, weapon on safe.

He’s also carrying a Knights Armament Co SR-16 CQB. Very nice carbine.
 
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Way back in my law enforcement days... I occasionally was in charge of a protective detail when a biggie came to my City (we're talking Clinton era...). I made absolutely sure that even though we were on the outer perimeter that my crew was as squared away and on point as possible - no matter who was being protected... Even the thought of a possible incident during their brief visit would have kept me up at night... Very serious business from my point of view.

My hat's off to anyone on a professional protective detail - put simply, it's hard duty with little upside - but a whole world of bad things coming your way if you screw it up (or someone is good enough to beat the security in place...).
 
mshootnit said:
My favorite was the secret service guy who pulled an UZI out of his sport jacket during the Reagan attack. They look like office managers until the Uzi comes out!
Link to Uzi guy pic:
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/president-reagan-shot-march-30-1981-236656
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Interesting, serious stuff, but take away the gun and he looks like he's in a disco pose.

Three piece suit as opposed to the polo shirt and slacks of the current agent. Different duties perhaps, but times have changed....
 
There are two main security divisions within the Secret Service - the uniformed division and the agent division. The uniformed division performs area access control / denial dressed in (wait for it) a uniform. You can see them in the perimeter guard posts around the White House complex (NEOB, OEOB, White House, Blair House, Main Treasury) and the VP's residence. Agents wear business attire; they execute personal guard details for the President/VP, both up close and in an overwatching role, and perform pre-visit site prep / planning.

These two divisions have different missions, and therefore different selection of tactics, skills, and weaponry.
 
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