Socks for Cold Weather Stand Hunting

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I noticed a few people mentioned Muck Arctic boots (Arkansas Paul and Armored Farmer) as being very warm. I looked at a pair for my daughter and it doesn't appear there is any insulation (no Thinsulate or similar). Is the neoprene really that good of an insulator?

I'm sold on Muck boots! They are very warm, and surprisingly comfortable to walk in. Plus calf high is great in deep snow and when crossing streams. Compare weights with knock-offs, the Mucks are significantly lighter from what I've seen.

The warmest boots are the felt packs, like Sorels. But they are heavy and bulky which makes walking a chore. And when its bitter cold a nice hike every so often warms the other body parts up.
 
Alaskan Ironworker, 0 degrees F is pretty darn cold, if you are not moving. Do you think they'd be warm enough for sitting all day in 10 to 20 F?
 
I found the key was layers - a polypropylene or silk layer to wick away the moisture then cotton then wool
 
What is your idea of cold?

Last few seasons the temps ranged from -8F up to the low/mid 30's. Typically in a stand 9-11 hours each day. Not a real problem when the temps are 20F and up. But those days with highs in the below 0/single digit range are killer. And thanks for the Lacrosse tip.
 
Yes, once a body part is frostbitten, it will be more sensitive to cold. Not chilblains, real frostbite. Or more correctly, frostnip, the first stage of frostbite, which may happen concurrently with chilblains.

Yep, that's part of my problem. Suffered some mild frostbite many years ago to a few fingers and toes. Hands are good as I keep them in a muff with warmers when the temps realy tank. But them damn feet just feel like blocks of ice sometimes LOL.
 
I learned to change my sweaty socks out for dry ones after walking into my stand. Depending on the length of the hike in and difficulty of terrain, I may even wear tennis/hiking shoes in and pack my boots.

I hear you man. Fortunately, my stands are not more than a 10-15 minute walk from the cabin so thankfully, I am not getting sweaty any more.
 
Its hard to beat wool!

I can remember hunting with one of my uncles many years ago when gear was way more primitive than today, i.e. pre gore-tex and thinsulate. He wore 5 buckle goulashes and street shoes and commented that his feet were never so warm.

Isn't the phrase "darker than a well diggers a$$"? I worked with drillers all of my career. Dude, you have a tough job!

Wool is good, I prefer wool socks. As others have said, the key is to wear layers - including on your feet & hands. 5 buckles are cumbersome but they work better than anything else I've ever tried.
Can't say I've heard the 'darker than' phrase but if I had a dollar for every time someone asked about hitting oil I would be a wealthy man.
 
The combination of the polyurethane and neoprene in Muck boots is pretty warm. They're not as warm as hardcore pacs or arctic boots like Baffin, but they keep the lower pant leg dry better than just leather hunting boots.

The problem I have with the polyurethane boots like Muck is that some of them (I've had a few different models) are very slippery. They can be extremely slippery on wet rocks crossing creeks or in shallow river areas. They're also very slippery on ice and packed snow. I will wear the yak trax chains for ice/snow, but came to hate Mucks around the river.
 
Wicking layer, then good wool.

Once I get to where I’m going, if I start getting cold feet, I’ll place disposable hand warmer packs in the bottom of my boots.

Same for cold hands, another pair in my gloves.
 
Thanks for all the additional suggestions folks. Much appreciated!

Be well all
 
I have tried electric, packet insoles, layers, layers with loose boots so I can wiggle them around well inside, the best hands down is one of the little buddy heaters. You can sit as long as you could want with one of them. Even take a good book with you, no problem.
 
I have tried electric, packet insoles, layers, layers with loose boots so I can wiggle them around well inside, the best hands down is one of the little buddy heaters. You can sit as long as you could want with one of them. Even take a good book with you, no problem.
Don’t recommend the book, missed a trophy buck whilst hunting in Plaster Rock NS. Big one snuck up to within 50 feet while my nose was in that book. Sitting on the ground back to a big tree. When I finally looked up he snorted bounced off a few yards and stopped. Put a 358 Silvertip up his butt but didn’t see the two inch sapling between him and me. Sapling took the hit dead center. His rack gets bigger every time I tell the story. ;)
 
I will preface by saying I play and work in extreme cold. Deer hunting, drill rig, ice fishing...all relatively sedentary activities, done to sub zero temps.

For socks, I wear silk undersocks. They are warm, thin, and slick. Properly fitted they won't constrict your circulation which is vital in cold weather. Over this, down to about the teens or so, I wear a heavyweight Merino wool sock, Wigwam brand. Other brands are of similar warmth and quality, but it is important they are merino. They are warm for their bulk...also not constricting your circulation. Dressed accordingly, my feet will stay warm in uninsulated work boots to the mid teens, even when damp/wet.

Now for real cold. I still wear the silks. Now my oversock is changed to an Alpaca wool heavy sock made by Alpacas of Montana. They were expensive and worth every penny. My boot liners also contain some neoprene and space age reflective material. There's only so much conventional pack, muck, rubber insulated boots will do. When it gets below zero, you need some specialized boots. Mine are Viking brand, as my boots must be electrically rated. I use them for hunting and such also. Other quality extreme cold boots are made by Baffin, LaCrosse and others. I will also pack an old sleeping bag and put my feet and legs in it in the stand. This helps tremendously for additional warmth.
 
I have worked outdoors most of my like doing surveying. It gets pretty cold here in New England, and standing around for long periods of time behind the instrument on cold ground is tough on the feet. Over the years I have developed a cold weather routine for my feet. first I spray my feet with a powder type athletes foot powder, then silk socks, then a thick pair of Merino wool socks inside of my LaCross boots. For long periods of time I bring a 3' X 3' square of a foam insulation to stand on or sometimes I bring the boot blankets with some chemical heaters in them.
 
I usually hunt deer from tree stands in Northern Minnesota. It's usually in 20's but sometimes is sub zero plus windchill.. I like at least 800 gram Thinsulate leather or fabric boots with a very heavy wool sock. I used to use electric socks but in recent years I use chemical heaters in my boots. I also open hot hands heaters both on my shirt pocket and gloves after I have cooled off from the slow walk in. Rubber boots cause too much sweat. I usually spend 3 hours on the stand and try not to move much.
 
How do those chemical heaters in the boots fit? When I lived in ND, my boots were full between the layers of socks...........
 
I have worked outdoors most of my like doing surveying. It gets pretty cold here in New England, and standing around for long periods of time behind the instrument on cold ground is tough on the feet. Over the years I have developed a cold weather routine for my feet. first I spray my feet with a powder type athletes foot powder, then silk socks, then a thick pair of Merino wool socks inside of my LaCross boots. For long periods of time I bring a 3' X 3' square of a foam insulation to stand on or sometimes I bring the boot blankets with some chemical heaters in them.
Silk liner all the way.
 
Here is something to keep in mind too, if your feet are cold, warm the rest of your body too. Often (but not always) our extremities get cold because the body is trying to keep the core warm at their expense.

That said, no amount of anything will compensate that well for sitting still in super cold, even furry animals have to get up and walk around when it gets super cold. Cut sweat, wear wicking material and try to insulate your stand. When it gets super cold out in the stand I wrap myself in a warm wind stopping material blanket and that goes a long ass way.

Also, there’s no shame in going in when you get cold. All toughing it out will do is make you miserable and potentially put you in danger.
 
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Thanks for all the additional suggestions folks. Good stuff! The silk liners and old sleeping bag ideas (in addition to heavy wool sock, merino, alpaca etc) sound like great ideas. Gonna have to dig out one the girls small old sleeping bags we used for camping when they were little if them temp dip into them single digits. I have an alpaca socking cap that is incredibly warm so them socks are sounding pretty nice too. Lot's of good information to sift through.

Be well and stay safe on the hunt
 
Thanks for all the additional suggestions folks. Good stuff! The silk liners and old sleeping bag ideas (in addition to heavy wool sock, merino, alpaca etc) sound like great ideas. Gonna have to dig out one the girls small old sleeping bags we used for camping when they were little if them temp dip into them single digits. I have an alpaca socking cap that is incredibly warm so them socks are sounding pretty nice too. Lot's of good information to sift through.

Be well and stay safe on the hunt
Last comment, don’t forget the underwear. Lotta guys wear their regular cotton underwear under all their layers and wonder why they’re cold.
 
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