woodnbow
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i still want something in .58 cal. Does anyone have any experience with the reproduction Richmond carbine? I'm just wondering if they are well made or not.
But such a steep price tag heh. Some ten years ago I paid that same amount for a 2004 model colt match target ar15 with a 20 inch ss bull barrel. If anyone can clue me in, why do these reproductions cost so much?
If I spend a thousand dollars on a side lock, will it be any better than a typical 250 dollar traditions deer hunter for example? Will it shoot better than my deerstalker?
These guns are produced in relatively low numbers.
Yet there's many operations needed to put the gun together.
If they weren't made in Italy, they would be even more expemsive.
There's overseas shipping and even the distributor needs to make a profit.
These guns probably sit on the shelf for 5-10 years before they get sold.
Not a real populat model either.
I'd be surprised if they sell 200 - 300 of the carbines world wide each year, and that's probably being generous.
Why do you think that TC got out of the sidelock business?
Investarms was selling TC copies for almost 1/2 their price.
Even USFA couldn't stay in business.
Remember them, they were located in Hartford, CT assembling high end Uberti Colts and Colt SAA's.
They made great products but were simply too expensive for most, and they had invested heavily in new equipment.
Don't forget Euroarms, Armi San Marco and Palmetto all went out of business since about 2000.
If Chiappa/Armi Sport didn't sell so many different modern guns they probably wouldn't stay in business making BP guns.
There's not much profit in it to justify keeping a large factory open.
Civil war reproduction guns really can't be compared to average sidelocks.
They're mostly made for re-enactors and history buffs.
There's used muskets on the market from when people pass away and they get auctioned, or when folks stop re-enacting or shooting, and downsize their collection.
The N-SSA probably isn't a growing activity either, it involves a lot of time and commitment.
If you could suddenly have one muzzleloader, what would it be
A long time ago I responded to a newspaper ad about a muzzle loader for sale.
IIRC it was a reproduction P53 Enfield Musketoon with a 24" barrel and made in England on the original machinery which I didn't know anything about.
The lady said it belonged to her ex-husband who was a re-enactor and she wanted $400 for it.
I wasn't interested but it was probably worth more, and if I had offered her less she would have sold it to me.
It was something that a person would really need to be interested in to invest that kind of money at the time for a used gun.
But the way that prices are now days, $400 is small change for that brand and model.
I can remember new Investarms sidelock carbines used to cost $99 - $109 brand new at a gun shop in Preston that I just happened to stop in as I was passing by.
But I didn't buy one from them either.
(LIVE firing of a wall gun..., slow motion is at mark 3.00)
the Rigby from someone like that seems like a good option.
i still want something in .58 cal. Does anyone have any experience with the reproduction Richmond carbine? I'm just wondering if they are well made or not.
They had an original at rock island not long ago as I recall. Or maybe it was just shown on forgoton weapons. Quite a gun in it's day but spendy. The one shown was a confederate purchased gun.Whitworth 45 with the mechanically fitted bore/bullet. I'll trade my two hand built flinters, my TC Renegade, my original H.Leman 38 squirrel rifle, and an original Belgian double and throw in a Navy Arms Magnum 12. PMe. Doesn't have to even be an original.
With apologies, I just realized this is the rifle I could not do without; custom made black powder only Sharps 45-70 rifle w/ a very precise Vernier tang sight. I am the second owner and have consistently hit an 18" gong @ 300yds. I think the rifle could easily do twice that with the right hand loads.