Let's Talk About Discreet Rifle Carry

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Peeling off from another thread, let's talk about ways to transport a rifle (or carbine, PCC, etc...) and keep it near you without alerting or unnerving those around you.
dis·creet /diˈskrēt/
adjective
- careful and circumspect in one's speech or actions, especially in order to avoid causing offense or to gain an advantage.
- intentionally unobtrusive.​
I subscribe to the "gray man" line of thinking when it comes to keeping a long gun near me. Hidden in plain sight is better than concealed but raising questions. "Tactical" rifle bags, and even some of the "stealth bags" out there are too easy to recognize. MOLLE webbing, 5.11 logos, even some shapes (Sneaky Bags comes to mind) stand out and make anyone who's halfway observant wonder what's in the bag.

I've seen some recommend tennis racquet bags or musical instrument cases. While those don't necessarily scream "gun", a racquet bag does stand out as strange if you aren't at the tennis court. And when is the last time you saw someone shopping in a store with a saxophone case slung over their shoulder?

There's lots of urban unrest right now. Many reasons why one might want to have a rifle with them, but not be obvious about it. Even just a way to get a rifle from your house to vehicle and back without all the neighbors being aware. So, what do you carry and how do you carry it when you want a bit more than pop than a pistol?
 
When I want to carry a rifle, I generally dress like Robert Redford in Jeremiah Johnson and just slip the long gun in a leather case with fringe. Amazingly nobody ever says a thing. :)

I have a backpack that has a large rear compartment and is designed to hold a pistol with quick access from the side of the pack. The big main compartment comfortably holds a 16" AR with upper and lower sections broken down. There is internal molle webbing that can be used for mag carriers and such.

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FWIW, I have a cheap mandolin case that works well for getting my more compact and take-down rifles from my front door to my car in full view of the elementary school parking lot across the street.

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That said, it's hardly the most rapid-access option -- my actual 'discreet carry' arms are all handguns in holsters. I can get to a prepped combat rifle at my home in under 30 seconds, but since I can draw my sidearm a whole lot faster than that, for me at least things would have to have reached the panic room stage to go for a rifle first.
 
Unfortunately, my garage is always too full of tools and projects to actually use it to park a truck. :oops:

Below is a backpack I picked up a few years ago. I can't recall the brand, and there are no labels on it to give it away. It just looks like a typical hiking pack. It had a really nice suspension system with a padded back. There's also a removable hip belt. The inside is fully velcro lined and is comes with several velcro straps to secure whatever you want to lash down. I like that it isn't a "tactical" color, like OD, gray or tan. The bright red doesn't look military-ish in any way. The water bottle holders are a nice touch, both for camouflage and for... water.

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Spare 30-round mags:

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AKM with a 20 round mag:

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I can actually pack my Mossberg Shockewave in there at the same time.
 
If I don't want to be observed while carrying a rifle. I wear camo.
When I'm not hunting. A pistol more than covers what I need.
Just carry a few extra mags in a 40 or 45 and you're good to go.
Remember a car is a better weapon than a gun.
 
Tripod bags look totally normal when one has a serious-looking camera plainly visible. Actually, I have used a rectangular Eagle Industries Discreet Carbine Case, which was designed with dimensions specifically to accommodate a 16” AR16, to tote a photography tripod.
 
I discovered, by chance, that an M1919 Browning belt-fed machine gun can be carried in a standard attache case. That is, provided that the barrel jacket is not silver-soldered to the trunnion (which was the normal procedure). If the jacket can be unscrewed, then the gun can be broken down into two parts, which will fit in the case. But, because of the weight, you risk the case falling apart if you try to carry it normally by the handle. Best to cradle the case from the bottom.

You still need some other way to discreetly carry the tripod mount.
 
Sports / Gym Duffels are a longer variety of casual bag that people are accustomed to seeing + they provide quick access and often can be worn like a backpack. The trick w/ one of these may be to utilize a firmer soft case inside the duffel to provide some structure and separation while letting the exterior duffel flex and drape around it.

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One won’t have time or dexterity to assemble an AR when it’s needed. Mind your pistol skills and always carry concealed. If and when (God forbid) the time comes, you will have to dance with what you brought on your person.
 
Takedown pins on my AR pistol.
Milwaukee grease gun case.

He's right.....
This homemade case is cool, but next time it'll be a plain duffel bag.

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I like the tool case idea. That wouldn't raise eyebrows if you were seen carrying it. Milwaukee tools are pretty nice. It might be a theft magnet if left visible in a car, but then I try to never leave anything visible in my truck that might encourage a break in. Maybe something from Central Pneumatic or Pittsburgh from Harbor Freight would work. Nobody would waste their time to steal those, lol!
 
Enough of the armchair commando / operator stuff for this grumpy old guy... If I have need of a long gun it will reside securely in the trunk of my vehicle until needed - just as it did years ago when I was a cop... It will be properly secure and protected there until needed (and let's say a quiet prayer that it never is... needed). In a pickup truck it will find similar accommodation with an equal emphasis on both security and concealment, period.

Whenever I've needed to transfer a weapon, handgun or long gun from a vehicle to my house or other structure they've always been easy to conceal with a towel or blanket (or whatever improvised solution was on the spot. I can easily see not wanting to alert your neighbors that you're more than ready to defend yourself if needed... but - I'll stop right now before I start getting emotional about things...
 
For the record, this discussion is just for fun and I don't think anyone would suggest to forgo carrying a handgun on your person in favor of a rifle in a bag. The discussion is about how to carry a rifle, for whatever reason, in addition to your normal CCW. My apologies if the subject somehow triggers some readers. (Pro Tip: If you don't like the topic, your participation is not required.)

Getting something like a Sub2000 or other PCC can certainly help with discrete rifle carry. I prefer not to use a gun that has to be disassembled and reassembled. Again, this is in the case of needing quick access, which I acknowledge is highly unlikely.) That, in my mind, takes AR carbines and guns like the Charger out of the running. Of course, AR pistols and the Charger pistol are small enough when fully assembled to put them back on the list. The Sub2000 is just a quick fold away for being put into action. I've been considering a Stribog SP9 or CZ Scorpion pistol as either one would fit in the center console of my truck, even with a folded pistol brace. Those would certainly be easy to pack in a pack pack.
 
I normally pack a rifle when I'm going out shooting or hunting, in which case it just rides over on he passenger side of my truck or in the back seat if I have a passenger. If it's a longer trip like a family vacation, for us that generally means we're towing our camper and in that case I'll often stick a rifle up by my side of the bed where it isn't real obvious. I don't generally take a rifle if we're just going to visit relatives for the weekend or whatever but if I did I would stick in in a case under the back seat. I don't have any kind of PCC or AR pistol, just normal carbine or full size rifles.

I've never worried about hiding a gun from my house to the truck. Generally I park in the garage so it's a non-issue, but even out in my driveway I don't really care if a neighbor sees me with a gun. I know for a fact most of them are armed and the ones I'm not sure about...I'd be surprised if they weren't.
 
Not worried about the neighbors. Holding a house breaker at gun point years ago pretty much blew any secrecy I might have had.

I regularly carry a shotgun in what ever vehicle I’m using. They are broken down into three pieces. Assembly takes about 20 seconds.

It fits into a small rectangular case that doesn’t scream gun. Carried out of sight and secured to he interior of the vehicle it would take a thief time and tools (something most vehicle burglars don’t have) to steal.

As to concerns about rapid deployment, a fellow (with whom I disagree on many other points) one said “a handgun is used to fight your way to a long gun” or words to that effect.
 
My "anything" rifle is a sporterized M1894 (Swedish) Mauser. It is 37.5 inches long and will serve any serious purpose in North America. (Might be light for charging polar bears, but I don't get that far north usually.) I'm putting together a wooden cuboid, much like the 'old' carrying cases of non-descript box. My first idea was for protection in the trunk against other baggage or items. But I like the non-descript aspect as well. The rifle is not disassembled, but not loaded either. It loads with stripper clips which are not the same container but handy. At my age, I probably will never need it, but with all the insurgents running loose, one can never tell.
 
I have a bag for my PC Carbine (soon to be my PC Charger). It conveniently and discretely holds both parts of the gun plus spare mags, a pistol and holster. It has additional pockets that could probably hold much more but I don't have a use for them. It doesn't look much like a rifle case.

I have zero illusions about "saving the day" or trying to deploy the guns in the bag as primary weapons. The whole reason I bought the bag - and Indeed the carbine itself - was to provide me with a better weapon and the means to carry it while traveling. The most common iteration of this involves me shouldering the bag for the short walk from my car, through a hotel lobby and into my room.

I live in a house now with a garage, so my guns are never exposed to the public anymore. But there was a time when I lived in apartments where more discreet carrying cases were highly desirable to me just to keep anyone from knowing what I owned.
https://shopruger.com/PC-Carbine-Takedown-Case/productinfo/19094/
 
If you have a trunk, there are some really good racks with excellent locking features. I think they are made mostly for police vehicle.

I drive a Tacoma. I'm looking at one designed for floor mounting. It should easily mount to the floor behind the folding rear seat. There are storage cubbies there, but they are useless for much more that grocery bags. They aren't cheap, but they are as secure yet rapidly accessible as you can get. I'd really like one for a levergun, but so far have found them only for shotguns and AR type rifles.

The big advantage over the roof mounted units is that it is completely out of sight. There's even a guy that has figured out a way to have an electric lock to unlatch the seat back. Lots of inventive folks out there, you just need to look around.
 
Like Havok7416, I have a PC Carbine w/a FSDC takedown bag (looks just like the Ruger bag but not as expensive).I did take a black Sharpie and color in the logo so you can`t even see the logo.
The PC Carbine takes the same mags as my SR9c so I have commonality of mags and ammo. SR9c on me to be used to get to the truck where the PCC is stashed.
 
My nearest neighbor is a little over 1/4 mile away, no no issues there. My 300 BLKOUT PDW Pistol "truck Gun":

Length: Closed: 23 3/4s” Extended: 27 ½”
Weight: Unloaded: 5lbs 14.5 OZ, Loaded 20rds: 6lbs 12OZ

How it's normally transported:

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The case fit's the AR15 pistol, 3 spare mags, another pistol with a couple of spare mags. IF broken down it's only 18.5" for the upper and fit's in a daypack.

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