Rebirth of the 32s?

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Their website does not show compatibility for the LCR 327.
http://www.5starfirearms.com/R6-327-Mag-Accessories-s/127.htm

I do not want to have to make do with an ill-fitting loader like I did with the HKS 36a and the LCR 357.

https://www.5starfirearms.com/J2-327-Speed-Loader-p/j232706000.htm

I have several and they work great.

I checked with them and they haven’t listed this one in the drop down yet because it is newer. You actually have to search for it at their website.

It is the J2-327
 
I guess you didn't read the article.
Or Alliants website

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/powderlist.aspx?type=1&powderid=3&cartridge=27

To each his own, it may work for you but it isn’t a “light charge” of Unique at all... in fact it’s way over Alliants +P loads. I’d consider it a mid-upper weight 357 magnum charge with Unique. I use 6.9 gr under a plated hp in .357 mag cases and guns and it packs a bit of oomph.

6.9 gr unique in a 4” Model 66:

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The same load in a 4” Model 686+:
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I’ll still pass on a 7 grain charge of Unique under a 158 gr bullet in a .38 Special case in a .38 Spl. Revolver.

A pleasant load runs 3.8 to 4.5 gr Unique under a 158, find the weight that’s most accurate and you’ll believe thats about right :thumbup:.

Stay safe.
 
Or Alliants website

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/powderlist.aspx?type=1&powderid=3&cartridge=27

To each his own, it may work for you but it isn’t a “light charge” of Unique at all... in fact it’s way over Alliants +P loads. I’d consider it a mid-upper weight 357 magnum charge with Unique. I use 6.9 gr under a plated hp in .357 mag cases and guns and it packs a bit of oomph.

6.9 gr unique in a 4” Model 66:

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The same load in a 4” Model 686+:
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I’ll still pass on a 7 grain charge of Unique under a 158 gr bullet in a .38 Special case in a .38 Spl. Revolver.

A pleasant load runs 3.8 to 4.5 gr Unique under a 158, find the weight that’s most accurate and you’ll believe thats about right :thumbup:.

Stay safe.
We’re off topic here but quickly, those 7 gr of Unique loads give me about 1130 FPS, which is definitely not 357 level performance.
 
It is off topic, but you posted a “light” load that’s far above the listed maximums for the .38 Spl. and I wanted potential readers who may not be aware to know that.

Max PSI for .38 Spl. hovers around 17,000, +P around 20,000. These are in the 4.5 to 5.0 gr max range for Unique. 7.0? It’s got to be approaching mid to upper .357 pressures for Unique to get a 158 gr bullet over 1,100 FPS in a .38 Spl. case, that’s what I’m getting at.

It’s not the loads’ cronographed FPS that determines when a load causes damage to your gun, it’s the PSI the powder charge develops that does. Unique’s burn rate can lead to magnum level PSI without reaching magnum level velocity, that’s why other powders are better suited for max velocity loads.

Again, you may find it acceptable. It is 100% your gun, your fingers, none of my business. I wish nothing but the best for you, me, the OP and all of us here on THR. :)

That being said, I will say with total confidence that the 7.0 gr of Unique under a 158 gr bullet load you suggested is excessive for the .38 Spl. and exceeds by a significant amount every max charge published for that powder/bullet/cartridge combination...so I’ll pass and I recommend others who may not be familiar with loading for the .38 Spl. pass on that load as well.

Stay safe.
 
I just got a great buy in a 9.5" barrel Ruger single six in .32 H&R, can't wait to see what that does ! I recently got an H&R .32 mag 732 2.5" Side Kick , as new for $ 200. I sold , for good money my cherry I frame early post war .3" .32 Long hand Ejector round butt I had for 35 years with beautiful sambar stag grips for a little more than both the 2 non safe queen .32 mags cost me. :).
 
Wow, nice pickups!

My new .32 H&R is the 6.5” Bisley Single Six, your 9.5” .32 has the potential to be a mini-Buntline 50-yard rabbit slayer for sure :thumbup:.

Ive read so many posts where people are thrilled with any or all of the .327 FM - .32 HR - .32 SWL guns they have, saying over and over that they’re fun guns to shoot and accurate as heck. I can’t wait to give mine a try.

Congrats on a great set of .32’s. Post pics if you have any, I can’t recall ever seeing the H & R you described.

Stay safe.
 
It is off topic, but you posted a “light” load that’s far above the listed maximums for the .38 Spl. and I wanted potential readers who may not be aware to know that.

Max PSI for .38 Spl. hovers around 17,000, +P around 20,000. These are in the 4.5 to 5.0 gr max range for Unique. 7.0? It’s got to be approaching mid to upper .357 pressures for Unique to get a 158 gr bullet over 1,100 FPS in a .38 Spl. case, that’s what I’m getting at.

It’s not the loads’ cronographed FPS that determines when a load causes damage to your gun, it’s the PSI the powder charge develops that does. Unique’s burn rate can lead to magnum level PSI without reaching magnum level velocity, that’s why other powders are better suited for max velocity loads.

Again, you may find it acceptable. It is 100% your gun, your fingers, none of my business. I wish nothing but the best for you, me, the OP and all of us here on THR. :)

That being said, I will say with total confidence that the 7.0 gr of Unique under a 158 gr bullet load you suggested is excessive for the .38 Spl. and exceeds by a significant amount every max charge published for that powder/bullet/cartridge combination...so I’ll pass and I recommend others who may not be familiar with loading for the .38 Spl. pass on that load as well.

Stay safe.
It’s Starline 357 brass. And I would qualify it as a creambuff 357 round. A full house 357 with a 158 grain bullet, I’d expect something greater than 1,400 FPS. And this ain’t that, nowhere near that.
 
I would love to find a new revolver with a 2" barrel in either 32 H&R Mag or 327. I've been looking for one since the first of the year. I could have bought a Ruger LCR but don't care for them. I have had good luck with Taurus revolvers but they don't make one in either caliber.
 
I'm a recent convert to .32 of various sorts. Started with .32 S&W Long, and have 2 Regulation Police and a Hand Ejector ranging from 1916 to 1957. Also have two .32 H&R of recent manufacture, both Charter, since Smith and Wesson is recalcitrant about bringing back their H&R's. I like the cartridges and they're fun (and cheap) to reload. Shooting is easy on the hands, and the H&R can be loaded to reasonable self-defense levels.
 
I would love to find a new revolver with a 2" barrel in either 32 H&R Mag or 327. I've been looking for one since the first of the year. I could have bought a Ruger LCR but don't care for them. I have had good luck with Taurus revolvers but they don't make one in either caliber.
I just traded away a like new Taurus 327. At this time I would say to avoid those based solely on the price tag. They are bringing more than they are worth. It should be a $300ish gun, but with that $300idh gun and another $300 worth of ammo I got a Chiappa Rhino worth about $800.
 
I would love to find a new revolver with a 2" barrel in either 32 H&R Mag or 327. I've been looking for one since the first of the year. I could have bought a Ruger LCR but don't care for them. I have had good luck with Taurus revolvers but they don't make one in either caliber.
Charter makes them in both aluminum and steel frames. I carry one of the aluminum-frame ones in the warmer months. Of course, everything's out of stock right now, but they'll be back.
 
Charter makes them in both aluminum and steel frames. I carry one of the aluminum-frame ones in the warmer months. Of course, everything's out of stock right now, but they'll be back.

I have been searching for a Charter revolver locally and on line since March with no luck. Hopefully things will return to normal soon.
 
I think a lot of the current interest in the 32s is price driven. The 22s and 38s have climbed in price to a point where with quality guns they simply don’t make sense for some folks and the lower quality guns with significant age are not considered safe enough to use. The 32 has long been the bastard caliber of the handgun world but if you want a revolver of decent construction, the 22 revolvers are in high demand and are expensive, the 38/357 guns are in high demand and are expensive (plus a lot of folks are recoil shy) and the big bores are even more expensive and not what everybody wants. Meanwhile the 32s are still sitting around forgotten and with very low demand so prices are low. Very low in many cases. An old S&W 32 sells for roughly halfor 2/3 of what a 38 does. A $600 gun is out of a lot of people’s budget, but a $400 gun may not be, and as the old saying goes.... any gun is better than no gun.
 
It’s Starline 357 brass. And I would qualify it as a creambuff 357 round. A full house 357 with a 158 grain bullet, I’d expect something greater than 1,400 FPS. And this ain’t that, nowhere near that.
My last comment, on this topic, within this thread.

If you are loading .357 cases with this load to shoot in a .357 revolver, the Lee guide shows a max 6.8 gr Unique charge under a 158 gr lead bullet is running 33,900 PSI in .357 Mag cases.

You didn’t say that you were loading .357 mag cases and firing them in. .357 Mag gun.

In response to a comment about “light loads” for a “.38”, you posted you were loading “light loads” using “7.0 gr Unique.” Since .357 magnum wasn’t mentioned in the thread by anyone, there is no way for a reader to equate your load to a .357 magnum.

7.0 gr Unique under any bullet is not now, nor has it ever been, a “light load” for a .38. I fact, it is still .2 gr over the maximum for Unique and a 158 gr bullet according to Modern Reloading 2nd. by Richard Lee, a long time, well respected loading guide... for a .357 magnum.

That is dangerous info for a person who reads your comment answering a comment about a light .38 load and assumes that they can stuff 7 grains of Unique into a .38 case and fire it in their .38 revolver...all because someone on THR said it’s a “light load” in response to a comment relating to a “.38.”

Using the same Lee loading guide, 4.5 gr Unique under a 158 gr lead bullet nets 17,100 PSI and 950 FPS. Right at, or slightly above, the max limit...for .38 Spl. loads.

You are still not equating the pressure peaks of various powders with the resulting velocity. The same Lee guide shows 15.4 gr of Hercules 2400 getting over 1,600 FPS at 34,000 PSI with a 158 gr lead bullet in .357 mag cases. Unique only gets that same bullet to 1,180 FPS... at 33,900 PSI. It’s not just velocity that makes a magnum load, it’s also the pressure the cartridge develops that separates the .357 mag from the .38 Spl.

Again, chasing velocity by upping charges while ignoring the PSI won’t get you the additional 300 FPS with Unique to match the velocity of the 2400 load (one you would call a true magnum load), it’ll probably get you a kaboom!! because Unique can’t drive that bullet that fast without ballooning the pressure beyond a guns limit. Again, it’s your gun, your fingers, your business.

Readers who may not be experienced reloaders; please use load data information posted on any chat forum wisely by double and triple checking against known, safe data.

Horse beaten to death, I’m going to shoot the new .32.

Stay safe.
 
My last comment, on this topic, within this thread.

If you are loading .357 cases with this load to shoot in a .357 revolver, the Lee guide shows a max 6.8 gr Unique charge under a 158 gr lead bullet is running 33,900 PSI in .357 Mag cases.

You didn’t say that you were loading .357 mag cases and firing them in. .357 Mag gun.

In response to a comment about “light loads” for a “.38”, you posted you were loading “light loads” using “7.0 gr Unique.” Since .357 magnum wasn’t mentioned in the thread by anyone, there is no way for a reader to equate your load to a .357 magnum.

7.0 gr Unique under any bullet is not now, nor has it ever been, a “light load” for a .38. I fact, it is still .2 gr over the maximum for Unique and a 158 gr bullet according to Modern Reloading 2nd. by Richard Lee, a long time, well respected loading guide... for a .357 magnum.

That is dangerous info for a person who reads your comment answering a comment about a light .38 load and assumes that they can stuff 7 grains of Unique into a .38 case and fire it in their .38 revolver...all because someone on THR said it’s a “light load” in response to a comment relating to a “.38.”

Using the same Lee loading guide, 4.5 gr Unique under a 158 gr lead bullet nets 17,100 PSI and 950 FPS. Right at, or slightly above, the max limit...for .38 Spl. loads.

You are still not equating the pressure peaks of various powders with the resulting velocity. The same Lee guide shows 15.4 gr of Hercules 2400 getting over 1,600 FPS at 34,000 PSI with a 158 gr lead bullet in .357 mag cases. Unique only gets that same bullet to 1,180 FPS... at 33,900 PSI. It’s not just velocity that makes a magnum load, it’s also the pressure the cartridge develops that separates the .357 mag from the .38 Spl.

Again, chasing velocity by upping charges while ignoring the PSI won’t get you the additional 300 FPS with Unique to match the velocity of the 2400 load (one you would call a true magnum load), it’ll probably get you a kaboom!! because Unique can’t drive that bullet that fast without ballooning the pressure beyond a guns limit. Again, it’s your gun, your fingers, your business.

Readers who may not be experienced reloaders; please use load data information posted on any chat forum wisely by double and triple checking against known, safe data.

Horse beaten to death, I’m going to shoot the new .32.

Stay safe.
The closest listing from the Alliant data website to my load:
357 Magnum
Bullet 158 gr Speer GDHP
Primer CCI 500
Powder Unique 7.7 gr
Speed 1,040
 
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