Hodgdon buying Ramshot, Accurate and Blackhorn

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I was surprised to read this this morning, hopefully it’s a good thing. Ramshot and Hodgdon are the two brands I use most.

https://www.theoutdoorwire.com/rele...1Rlc3bvl23yHK95txF9MBzVuBosgeuZ19iKWA2MGAt20s

With any luck it will make the Ramshot powders more available in my area.

Hopefully load data for those new powder brands will get added to Hodgdon's awesome online reloading database. I use mostly Hodgdon powders simply because of that database of information and its ease of use.
 
New to me, just saw it on another board.
That will really put Hodgdon in the driver's seat of powder distribution.

Western is listed as the US distributor of Norma powders. I wonder if they will continue that as a rump organization along with Montana Extreme solvent or if they are folding up completely and Norma will have to find another contact.
 
Not that I think Hodgdon would not be a good steward of the brands under their control, it is I just feel uncomfortable with so many "eggs" in one basket.

100% Look at how many companies were under the Remington banner, and were auctioned off when the whole company bit the dust.
 
Wow,
all from this
In the opening days of World War II, a chemist friend of Bruce E. Hodgdon was casually reminiscing about World War I. He mentioned the quantities of surplus smokeless powder the military had dumped at sea after the war; and speculated how useful that would have been to handloaders struggling through the Great Depression. He anticipated a similar surplus powder situation might occur after World War II. Hodgdon began investigating availability of surplus powder when the war ended; and sales to handloaders began in 1946. One of the first powders he found was 4895 used for loading .30-06 Springfield service ammunition. He purchased 25 tons of government surplus 4895 for $2000 and then purchased two boxcars to store it in preparation for resale at 75 cents per pound. His family initially packaged the powder for resale in the basement of their home.[2] In 1947, he began acquisition of 80 tons of spherical powder salvaged from disassembled .303 British military rifle cartridges manufactured in the United States. By 1949, he was marketing the powder as BL type C. The C was to indicate the powder burned "cooler" than traditional Improved Military Rifle (IMR) powders.[3] In 1949, he began acquisition of powder salvaged from disassembled Oerlikon 20mm cannon cartridges. This powder resembled IMR 4350 in appearance, and with a slower burning rate, was initially marketed as "4350 Data", and later as 4831.[4]
 
That’s not great news. That’s one more component largely owned by one company. I like the idea of multiple companies being players in the game. With shortages and supply chain issues it’s a lot easier to find trouble in the future if one company goes under.
 
This is definitely NOT good news for reloaders. Competition within the industry gives all of us better powders and lower prices.

As a reseller/distributor and not a manufacturer, Hodgdon has always been in it for the business. If this was a TV network or a stock brokerage firm, the Federal Trade Commission would be blocking this sale since it severely limits competition within the industry.

Hodgdon's business-only thinking will be, "If reloaders can pay $50 per pound during bad times, then they can pay $50 per pound during good times too." Look for all powders Hodgdon controls to go up in price past $30. Alliant will be forced to follow suite.
 
As a reseller/distributor and not a manufacturer, Hodgdon has always been in it for the business
I assume by business you mean $
Businesses exist to make $, sometimes they loose track of what is important in their quest for $, but not always.

I don't recall seeing prices go up much after the last powder shortage, so to assume Hodgdon will raise prices is unfair IMO.
Why would Alliant be forced to follow suite if Hodgdon raises prices? If Hodgdon raises prices and Alliant does not, one would think that would help Alliant's sales.

In the long run it could turn out to be good or bad for reloaders, no way to tell until we see how it turns out.
Sad to see Western go, but who knows maybe there will be more availability of Western powders at your local LGS in the future.
 
I assume by business you mean $
Businesses exist to make $, sometimes they loose track of what is important in their quest for $, but not always.

I don't recall seeing prices go up much after the last powder shortage, so to assume Hodgdon will raise prices is unfair IMO.
Why would Alliant be forced to follow suite if Hodgdon raises prices? If Hodgdon raises prices and Alliant does not, one would think that would help Alliant's sales.

In the long run it could turn out to be good or bad for reloaders, no way to tell until we see how it turns out.
Sad to see Western go, but who knows maybe there will be more availability of Western powders at your local LGS in the future.

^^^ What he said ^^^
 
Good! Hopefully they lower the price on blackthorn 209. No reason a half pound should cost $35
 
Can't imagine they'll keep the full catalog, probably going to have few skus going away to simplify their inventory and purchasing systems. The powders with the highest margins and availability remain while others drop off. There's no reason to increase substitutes of various products under the same brand when it's more profitable to limit supply chain complexity.
 
As a new reloader almost all the powders I've purchased to start out with have been under the Hodgdon banner: Hodgdon, IMR, & Winchester as I've been able to purchase most of these without paying HazMat and shipping costs, and I'vebeen able to find these availableforpurchase this summer. The lone exception is one pound of Reloader 23.

Like @sabbfan hopefully this will increase the availability of different powders for me to evaluate and choose from.
 
I'm going to be optimistic about the OPs news. I buy most all of my powder and primers locally now. But they don't carry any of the Western Powder brands. Hodgdon brands and Alliant only. Maybe soon I will be able to get some #9 or 1680 powders. :)
It should broaden the distribution of the mentioned powder brands.
 
Economics be damned. This is not good news logistically. When multiple products/brands are owned by a parent organization then a few things happen, and while some of it is for good reason, risk almost always increases.

Look at the logistics. Is it cheaper to run 2 separate facilities (with management and support staff at both) or is it cheaper to run 1 facility that is larger but with less salary positions and fewer support (maintenance) positions. So the dollar drives us to produce goods in larger factories with typically relatively less overhead. Same for warehousing. Same for distribution means. Then an avalanche/tornado/hurricane/explosion/wildfire/plague of locusts/ union strike happens and suddenly that one streamlined source of product is disrupted. There is likely no backup facility, and if there is then it is likely too small to take full capacity and keep supply flowing like nothing ever happened.

There is a good side to it in that big makers are typically more efficient, and efficiency usually plays into low prices. Production capacity usually looks good on paper until it quits, and then you are up the proverbial creek without a paddle.
 
Hopefully load data for those new powder brands will get added to Hodgdon's awesome online reloading database. I use mostly Hodgdon powders simply because of that database of information and its ease of use.
I agree. I like that Western Powders list a good variety types of bullets in their data.
 
I don't think Western or Hodgdon manufacture, it's going to come down to what powders they will continue to buy in bulk to repackage in consumer quantities. Accurate powder already changed before, with Shooter's World now selling what Western used to source.
 
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