Jerry Miculek - "Time we have a chat ... on freedom ... Constitution ... and Second Amendment"

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To me, this highlights the dangers of single issue voting. I appreciate his shooting videos and I find them entertaining, but he misstates some things. Like, saying I've never seen a tax go away, only get bigger.
I guess he is conveniently forgetting that tax rates dropped under President Trump. Compared to the 1960s, every single president since, has enacted or continued lower income tax rates. When it comes to corporate taxation, we have rather high rates, but tons of loopholes. Compare this to FDR who essentially threatened companies to pay their taxes or risk nationalization. And what resulted was the largest economic period of growth in American history.

But tax rates are not the only things to be aware of. While a tax loophole is arguably what created the most popular retirement investment; the 401K (so named for its passage in the tax code) the downside is that the traditional pension has gone by the wayside, much to the detriment of the American worker. If you are a working class guy, you would likely find yourself better off with a guaranteed pension rather than a 401K.

Miculek's stated disdain for government regulation doesn't really mesh with reality. Nobody has ever been forbidden the opportunity to work through regulation. What we have done, however is fail to regulate large corporations who are happy to lobby and make campaign contributions. Today, we find companies abusing the patent system to stifle competition, rather than to protect IP. We find them buying up other companies solely for patents rather than actually innovating. Now we see corporate consolidation taking place in front of our very eyes in the nation who created anti-trust regulation as we know it. The Republicans who detested big conglomerates are now gone and the new Republicans are happy to let them consolidate power. Democrats meekly poke their heads up from time to time asking for paltry concessions which end up either ignored, or weakly enforced, or invalidated entirely. Banking regulations would have mitigated the 2008 recession, but the SEC either didn't act when they should have, or had no authority because previously illegal things were now legal. When you need a strong ally in government to speak up for the little guy, you get lip service from the GOP while they sell you out in another way, and you get ignored by the DNC who long ago forgot that they were supposed to be the pro-labor party and won't push anything serious that would actually benefit the working family at the expense of corporate donors.

I certainly value my freedom to own and shoot my guns but watching the ever-increasing corporate influence in the US Government signals to me, a much greater threat. And I tend to find the Republican 'comin fer yer guns' argument pretty hollow when I see them taking massive contributions from banks and pharmaceutical providers. I may be free to buy whatever firearms I want, but that's a pretty meaningless thing when I could find myself still working in my 70s to afford food (to say nothing of ammo) because a bank failed and took my IRA with it. I'm not going to be rebelling against anyone at 73 years of age. I will still need to eat.

So, long story boring, I don't buy Mr Miculek's argument. It ticks the ideological points nicely but seems to fall pretty flat in practice.

So, you're actually proposing to people on this forum (and you're not alone in this view on this forum ... sad to say) that we consider giving up our RKBA for other issues such as a speculation that Republicans donate more to the pharmaceutical industry than those in the Democrat party.

I won't go into it here but you can look it up. Bill Gates for example recently invested $10 Billion in buying pharmaceutical companies and says it's the 'best investment he ever made'.
 
Well, don't get used to it. That was exactly my thought reading your post, comrade. Don't worry, come the revolution, when Trump is out of the way, we'll take away the guns of all those yellow dog capitalists, put them against the wall, and execute them in the name of the people. Long live the Revolution!

Okay. On a more serious note, it blows my mind that people can't look at history and see what the ultimate destination of your ideology is.

Say's those that have backpacks full of money stashed away ...
 
This thread is dangerously off-topic (100% political) and I'm surprised the moderators haven't shut it down.

But, hey, if the floodgates have been opened I have a lot to contribute...
 
Let's hope it's not shut down because the first off-topic post was really by @Clean97GTI and that is the one that got everything started re: are you a one-issue voter. Personally I think the thread is valuable (even the funny bits ... hey, please let us have our funny bits).


I started out a single-issue voter after the Clinton AWB as depicted in my post above. Since then I have also come around to appreciate other conservative and some leftist issues (Soc Sec. & Medicare) but I stay true to my RKBA roots.

To me everything is pretty much a gray area except my RKBA.
 
If you are a working class guy, you would likely find yourself better off with a guaranteed pension rather than a 401K.
While your second paragraph contradicts nearly every assertion it makes, this one takes the cake.

Defined benefit programs typically returned something like 5% and aren't heritable. Ye boring 401k in ordinary growth mutual funds returns 10% over most 40 year careers in the past century; a person earning $50k a year can easily retire a millionaire thanks to that loophole.

Defined benefit is only advantageous for those who aren't grown up enough to consistently contribute to a diverse portfolio.

And this gem:
Nobody has ever been forbidden the opportunity to work through regulation. . .
Wow. Economics much? Limiting free access to labor markets is the precise purpose of labor regulation, and the state-enabled cartels (but they call themselves unions) those regulations create.
 
Guns are an issue all their own and, IMO, deserve better than being sucked into the maelstrom of partisan politics and surely deserve better than the GOP as constituted. Divorcing them from being a crutch of the right often used to mask a multitude of sins would be a good move for overall freedom and the preservation of the 2A. It's a major issue for me but you still have to look at the balance.
 
Not sure if you have any semi-auto centerfire PCC/carbines/rifles but are you gonna be OK if (As promised) all AR15s and AK47s, etc. are banned and mandatory "confiscation" takes place asking for your "cooperation"?

That is certain to happen voting for one party vs another in the next 4 years. And court packing will likely happen to ensure the SCOTUS rules in the antis favor.

And after that, you know 1911s were used in wars as "military grade" weapons, along with lever actions and revolvers. ;)

You have any "modern" semi-auto pistols or revolvers that weren't around during colonial times?
Why would I be OK with any of that?
Because I follow a different economic ideology than you do? Or are you one of those guys who accuses commies of killing millions, but in the next breath tell everyone that commies don't like guns?
 
Uh, Clinton raised taxes. Later he admitted he'd raised them too much ....:uhoh:
Bush Senior raised taxes after promising "no new taxes." THAT'S how we got Clinton ......:what:
Both of which were considerably lower than Eisenhower, Kennedy, LBJ, etc. That's why I said "compared to the 1960s"
 
I am saying the idea that you have to vote for gun rights and accept anti-family and anti-individual legislation is a false and that just because Republicans claim to be pro gun, doesn't mean they are worthy of a vote.
While your second paragraph contradicts nearly every assertion it makes, this one takes the cake.

Defined benefit programs typically returned something like 5% and aren't heritable. Ye boring 401k in ordinary growth mutual funds returns 10% over most 40 year careers in the past century; a person earning $50k a year can easily retire a millionaire thanks to that loophole.

Defined benefit is only advantageous for those who aren't grown up enough to consistently contribute to a diverse portfolio.

And this gem:

Wow. Economics much? Limiting free access to labor markets is the precise purpose of labor regulation, and the state-enabled cartels (but they call themselves unions) those regulations create.

Defined Benefit plans aren't heritable but they were never intended to be. They were intended to be stable retirement income. Nothing prevented you from participating in any number of other kinds of investments like those mutual funds or annuities. Many employers previously offered them. My own grandfather enjoyed having both his pension from 40 years at Exxon-Mobil as well as a fair bit of Exxon-Mobil stock because they used to match shares with employees.
Point is that pushing people into a 401K that was never intended to replace a pension and isn't protected can lead to the loss of considerable retirement income. Millennials are one such group. I personally watched my entire 401K lose all of its value during the 2008 Recession.
That was sure fun, seeing years of investing go right down the drain. Luckily I was still young and could work and have made it all back since but that was 2 years of net $0 returns.

I'm not sure what economics you're talking about. In a truly free labor market, unions or any other worker collective would wield considerably more power. It has taken state intervention to weaken unions with anti-labor policies (so-called Right to Work laws) to reduce union membership to its lowest point in decades. Labor regulation was implemented to reduce dangerous working conditions and cut back on child labor. It's the unions you have to thank for things like weekends and paid time off.
 
Chew on this ...

Trump has appointed 200+ federal judges to convert anti-gun courts to neutral and even flipped to pro-gun/2A and so far appointed second most number of judges with potential to appoint 100 more. He appointed 3 "Originalist" justices (Yes, Barrett will be confirmed) so far with potential to appoint 1-2 more if re-elected.

He is an imperfect tool for gun rights/2A but nonetheless an effective tool to perhaps go down in history as the single most important president to have SAVED the judicial future for gun rights/2A for generations to come, especially if he gets re-elected and SCOTUS starts hearing gun rights/2A cases and rules in favor of gun owners.

By appointing Barrett, he may have just saved the SCOTUS for gun rights/2A as Democrats WILL TRY to pack the courts as soon as they get the opportunity to change weak 5-4 to perhaps strong 6-3/7-2 for gun rights/2A by end of Trump's second term.

Are you still confused as to which party is beneficial to gun rights/2A? That's exactly the point Jerry Miculek was making in the video.

< Checking to see if THR is still a gun forum > ... Yup, THR is still a gun forum and forum rules/focus have not changed - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?pages/code-of-conduct/

"1. All topics and posts must be related to firearms or 'Right to Keep and Bear Arms' (RKBA) issues"
In case you forgot the THR forum rules, the most important one is all thread discussions MUST BE pertinent to support "Right to Keep and Bear Arms" not "How to give up our gun rights/2A".

And on an election year that may be the single most important election for gun rights/2A judicial future for generations, let's focus on discussing how best to RKBA.

And that is exercising our right to vote to send people to Washington who will best represent our gun rights/2A.

Can you do that?
 
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but I'm going to stop responding to this thread and let it get back to whatever it will be.
Seems as though any thread I respond to in here lately ends up getting a lock as soon as I voice an opinion outside the norm.
 
If you are a working class guy, you would likely find yourself better off with a guaranteed pension rather than a 401K.

As long as it’s a pension that people have not so poorly mismanaged that there is something left for you to receive.

Sometimes people can start with the best intentions and wind up with the worst end result.

Bummer to pay into something for your life and the only thing there when you need it is a stack of “IOU’s”...
 
Seems as though any thread I respond to in here lately ends up getting a lock as soon as I voice an opinion outside the norm.
Just follow the THR forum rules and keep your posts pertinent to support RKBA and on topic to OP and believe me, moderators will not lock the threads - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?pages/code-of-conduct/

"1. All topics and posts must be related to firearms or 'Right to Keep and Bear Arms' (RKBA) issues"​
 
Just follow the THR forum rules and keep your posts pertinent to support RKBA and on topic to OP and believe me, moderators will not lock the threads - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?pages/code-of-conduct/

"1. All topics and posts must be related to firearms or 'Right to Keep and Bear Arms' (RKBA) issues"​
A good chunk of the video was about tax policy and assertions about labor regulation.
-edit- OK, seriously done with this one now.
 
Oh, now we get to the unions.
It has taken state intervention to weaken unions with anti-labor policies (so-called Right to Work laws) to reduce union membership to its lowest point in decades.
It's the unions you have to thank for things like weekends and paid time off.
Bull-frickin' crap. It's the unions we have to thank for not being able to fire employees who consistently abuse unscheduled sick leave, who consistently refuse to do overtime when it's required, who consistently act contrary to policy and workplace rules, yet are protected from termination ... because they're union members.
Almost hilarious. When the Janus decision came down (and folks who were formerly in closed shops started opting out of unions), the unions gave up on fighting any battles except the most minor ones they thought they could win.
 
I am saying the idea that you have to vote for gun rights and accept anti-family and anti-individual legislation is a false and that just because Republicans claim to be pro gun, doesn't mean they are worthy of a vote.
What? Being opposed to late-term abortion is anti-family? And what do you define as "anti-individual?"

Sorry, but at this point, if you're a single-issue voter and the Second Amendment is your issue, I'm good with that. The 2nd Amendment is the bedrock of the Bill of Rights, ensuring the remainder of our freedoms.
-edit- OK, seriously done with this one now.
Yeah, right -- 'til next time.
 
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