What's a cartridge you'd like to see make a comeback?

My hunting partner would say the 30 Remington AR. It does seem like a really nifty caliber.

CoalTrain49 said:

I'm thinking the 30 carbine. I load and shoot it. It's a much better straight wall cartridge for a semi-auto carbine then 9x19 which seems to be gaining popularity. Granted, lots of people shoot 9x19 pistols and the ammo was cheap but it isn't an optimal cartridge for that application. 5.56 is probably a better military cartridge but I don't know anyone who needs a 400 yd cartridge for home defense. Try to find any 9mm or 5.56 these days for 0.35/rd these days. If Ruger manufactured a new reliable 30 carbine for $500 I would probable have one with a RDS.

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That would be incredible.

With the lightweight materials of today I’d bet Ruger et al. could make an extremely light and handy gun in .30 carbine. The M1 carbine also uses a notoriously flimsy magazine that is easy to damage. Magpul could tackle it and make a great magazine,

In soft or hollow points, the .30 carbine is highly effective. Just ask Jim Cirillo. And it produces less blast and noise than a 5.56.

WestKentucky said:

I said put in, not intended for. Way too many carbines found their way into action in place of the heavier rifles, and it got some bad press because of its inadequacy in a role that it was shoved into rather than the role it was intended for. I question how much the m2 had to do with the reputation as well but that’s irrelevant. My 30 carbine will likely see the deer woods this year, and I have absolute faith in its ability assuming I put a shot where it belongs.

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Very cool. What load do you plan to use?

One reason the M1 carbine exists today is back in the lates 30s early 40s the military was concerned that the then-burgeoning use of paratroopers meant the rear eschelon troops could find themselves with enemy raining down far from the front lines. The M1911, good as it was, was shown to have produced extremely few enemy casualties in WW1 and that is what most rear eschelon people were currently armed with, or the heavy and bulky M1903 Springfield bolt-action rifle that proved an encumbrance to the roles these men played.

6.5x55. It's hard to believe the Swedes had it right over 100+ years ago.

Ditto on the .357Max.

WestKentucky said:

I said put in, not intended for. Way too many carbines found their way into action in place of the heavier rifles, and it got some bad press because of its inadequacy in a role that it was shoved into rather than the role it was intended for. I question how much the m2 had to do with the reputation as well but that’s irrelevant. My 30 carbine will likely see the deer woods this year, and I have absolute faith in its ability assuming I put a shot where it belongs.

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They were quite popular with the Marines in the Pacific where there was lots of dense cover. Ammo weight is about the same as 5.56.

valnar said:

6.5x55. It's hard to believe the Swedes had it right over 100+ years ago.

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Just look at IKEA. Have you tasted their meatballs?

The Swedes have there stuff together for sure, including guns.

JCooperfan1911 said:

Very cool. What load do you plan to use?

One reason the M1 carbine exists today is back in the lates 30s early 40s the military was concerned that the then-burgeoning use of paratroopers meant the rear eschelon troops could find themselves with enemy raining down far from the front lines. The M1911, good as it was, was shown to have produced extremely few enemy casualties in WW1 and that is what most rear eschelon people were currently armed with, or the heavy and bulky M1903 Springfield bolt-action rifle that proved an encumbrance to the roles these men played.

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I have to test accuracy, but I have a couple different bullets and a few powders. Rifle season in Tennessee essentially starts at thanksgiving and runs til new year. I have a little time.

tark said:

25-20. I've got three, two oval port savages and a Remington model 25 pump. The latter is a joy to shoot. It holds ten rounds and is often mistaken for a .22 at the range. It looks like a model 12 slightly scaled up....which is pretty much what it is!

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At one point in my life, I liked the 25/20 Winchester so much, I had a "K" frame revolver chambered for it,



Then I took it even further, and designed a "Keith" style bullet for that revolver. Then while visiting my friend Ted Smith, (of SAS dies, fame) we made up a set of swage dies to make those .257 SWC bullets,



anyway, it was a fun project...

DM

243 WSSM
25-35
30-40 Krag

Why all the Krag ammo? Is it just to be able to feed your Krag rifles?

.357 Maximum. If a .460 S&W or .500 Mag can be made and not have flame cut top straps, then the .357 Max can be made today and last. Just put a big warning not to shoot bullets lighter than 158 grains unless it's .357 Mag or .38 Special.

.30-40 Krag. Great cartridge, great rifle. Not as powerful as .308 or .30-06, but plenty enough to be effective for most uses. I love rimmed rifle cases, they last forever.

7.62x25. Out of all the bottleneck pistol calibers, this one is the most practical. The 5.7 is anemic, .357 Sig is not long for this world, and the rest are all oddball wildcats. A 7.62x25 with a proper hollow point is like a semi auto .327 Federal Magnum

Ivy Mike said:

Why all the Krag ammo? Is it just to be able to feed your Krag rifles?

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yes.

I'll second the 7x57 Mauser. The Goldilocks cartridge, not too big, not too small, not too fast, not too slow, etc.
I have a sentimental soft spot for the 30 Luger. Feeds well, used to run semi-wadcutters and full wad cutters through my Luger with never a hiccup. These days I have a Ruger P89 chambered for it.
445 SuperMag. Dan Wesson sold it, making it proprietary, and believe it or not, Winchester once loaded it, elevating it to commercial status, at least technically so, if briefly.

260 rem

6.5mm bullet in a case made from 308 brass. With a bolt rifle with the right barrel length and twist I can't think of a more fun shooter that isnt semi auto

Duh! .300 Savage is the only one worthy of a resurrection.

9mm ultra/police. Basically a 380 enhanced, would be great to have more bullet choices for my PP Super. All those micro 9mm guns would be more pleasant but still hit decently in this chambering, IMO.

Mr. Mosin said:

Mmm. I'd like to see the .44 Spl come back big-time. Something along the lines of a 5 shot L-frame (perhaps a K frame, *maybe*), with a round butt, 3" *heavy* shouded barrel, and fixed sights. Similar to the Mdl 13 the FBI issued, but in a 5-shot .44 Spl chambering.

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I can't argue with that. Rossi had a stainless steel revolver in 5 shot .44 Special back in the Interarms days. They were probably the best revolver Rossi ever made. About K-frame in size they came with a 3 inch barrel and with adjustable sights, or with fixed sights and a bobbed hammer. The Model 720 is a great revolver and at one time I owned three of them. I sold off two in a down sizing period. Now while the .44 Special is not dead it does not enjoy the popularity it should. It's softer recoil and lower pressure makes it ideal in a gun the size of the Model 720. A great SD round in a carry size gun. As long as I am here, my M720 will be with me. Don't pass one up if you find one. For carry the fixed sight DA only might work best. Long live the .44 Special.

I am thinking the Sharps 50 - 120 would be a great cartridge to bring back. No special reason other than barking squirrels. Fun cartridges matter.

Trunk Monkey said:

8 inch Howitzer

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For my money, I like the 155mm M1 "Long Tom" gun. Sure, the 8 inch fires a heavier shell, but the 155mm has 800 f/s higher muzzle velocity and adds another four miles to the range.

Both use the same carriage, so mobility is a wash.

And yeah, there's the 8 inch nuclear shell. All the big-gun guys love to talk about the nuclear shell. However, I've found that the 155mm fulfills all of my large mobile artillery needs.

Dain Bramage said:

For my money, I like the 155mm M1 "Long Tom" gun. Sure, the 8 inch fires a heavier shell, but the 155mm has 800 f/s higher muzzle velocity and adds another four miles to the range.

Both use the same carriage, so mobility is a wash.

And yeah, there's the 8 inch nuclear shell. All the big-gun guys love to talk about the nuclear shell. However, I've found that the 155mm fulfills all of my large mobile artillery needs.

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The M1 was a towed artillery piece. If you want a smaller round with a higher velocity (the .40 S&W of the Field Artillery) on an M110A2 chassis you want an M107 175mm SP Howitzer.

I’dike to see an abundance of cheap, factory loaded ammo for my 250 Savage and 257 Roberts, so I suppose I’d choose one of those two.

I really like my 356 Win. as a hard hitting woods and open meadow rifle with good numbers out to a couple hundred yards if nessary. I also agree with the 250-3000.

No one mentioned the .350 Remington Magnum. I have a 673 Guide Rifle so chambered. It knocks elk over hard. It is pretty much the equal of a .35 Whelen in a short action, making for a handier shorter rifle. The original short magnum cartridge.

Anything not titled Creedmoor, Tactical, Precision, Subsonic or fired from a Platform needs to be resurrected...

I’d like to see CZ resurrect the .41 Mag and the Dan Wesson 741 and the 732 and .32 Mag (or.better yet 327).

I do want to see the .250 Savage and the .22 Hornet make a popularity comeback, they’re two mild shooting rounds that fill their niche very well.

Stay safe.