“Special” cartridges and firearms
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.455_Hunter
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.32 Winchester Special- a .30-30 class rifle cartridge.
earlthegoat2
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500 Special.
Are you specifically asking about the “special” cartridges that are shorter versions of a magnum cartridge (that may or may not have preceded them) or cartridges that have “special” in the name?
Just asking because if it is the former, 45 Colt is the “special”, 454 Casull is the magnum, and 460 S&W is the Super Magnum. IDK where that leaves 45 Schofield.
Are you specifically asking about the “special” cartridges that are shorter versions of a magnum cartridge (that may or may not have preceded them) or cartridges that have “special” in the name?
Just asking because if it is the former, 45 Colt is the “special”, 454 Casull is the magnum, and 460 S&W is the Super Magnum. IDK where that leaves 45 Schofield.
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45 cowboy special.
https://www.starlinebrass.com/45-cowboy-special
https://www.starlinebrass.com/45-cowboy-special
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I’ve seen a Dardick for sale here in Mass before, but that’s about as close as I’ve gotten to seeing a tround
That question makes no sense to me.
The .38 S&W Special was a longer version of the .38 Long Colt.
The .22 Remington Special was a .22 WRF with a different bullet.
The .44 S&W Special was a longer version of the .44 Russian.
earlthegoat2
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Listen, I’m just trying to get more clarification from the OP. If we want to go all “beginning of time” Paul Harrell style we can. We can even have a bunch of caveats, yeah buts, and what ifs.
Im just trying to keep things a bit simpler here with more contemporary and more well known cartridges.
Gotcha.
But the .38 and .44 Specials are longer than the cartridges they replaced. They are not "shorter versions" of later magnums.
BTW, I would hazard a guess that the .32 Winchester Special name came about because the .32 WCF already existed.
Speedo66
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My wife says I'm "special", not sure if that counts or is even a good thing. lol
earlthegoat2
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This is very true and is worth mentioning so as not to mislead anyone in the future as my earlier post may have.
Once again as to the OPs original question, what again is it your asking?
Are you trying to compile a list of all the “specials”?
Legionnaire
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So is the .380 ACP, or 9mm Kurz, a "9mm Special?" 
Jim Watson
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The .32 Winchester Special is considered to have been intended for factory loading with smokeless, reloading with black.
One poster speculated that was what made .38 Special and .44 Special "special." They worked with either powder.
One poster speculated that was what made .38 Special and .44 Special "special." They worked with either powder.
No.
Among "Specials", I know of the.22 Rem, .38 S&W, the .44 S&W, and the .32 Win.
The .41 "Special" was an obscure wildcat down-loading of the .41 Remington Magnum.
Why would it be?
So I understand.
That likely had noting to do with the name. By tradition, it would have been called the .32 WCF, but that name had been taken.
As I understand it, the .38 was introduced as a black powder load with more capacity than the Long Colt, and the .44 originated as a smokeless cartridge. Their names differentiated them from their predecessors.
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Hoyte
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Yes, any cartridge with the word special attached to it. If it has the word special in the name or nickname, Im trying to add it to the list.
mstreddy
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A buddy bought a Dardick recently, along with some Trounds. He gave me one, I have it on my bench. Interesting, to say the least.
Jim Watson
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I leafed through CotW without further enlightenment.
But the low powered SAAMI 8x57 probably meant to protect 1888 souvenirs was once called the "8mm Remington Special."
But the low powered SAAMI 8x57 probably meant to protect 1888 souvenirs was once called the "8mm Remington Special."
Legionnaire
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Then please excuse my failed attempt at humor.
After 31 years of marriage I understand very little about my wife and women in general. But I am CERTAIN whenever she calls me special it is NOT a good thing.
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