Opinions on the Feg hi power clone.

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outerlimit said:
I've heard the exact same thing about the PJK's and P9M's in regards to the trigger pin and the magazines. One of the models has a different barrel lug as well than the standard HP lug. I believe it's the later model, but I can't remember for sure, I think it's the PJK. I did examine a PJK magazine up close once and did notice the exterior was a bit rough and this was a new gun. But the finish on the gun looked nice. I don't remember how the spring was as it was a long time ago. IIRC the magazines were advertised as 14rd, but more likely I would say they should be loaded with 13rd like the original HP magazines with the solid follower. Though I don't have a PJK/P9M magazine spring to count the coils on, I don't think the followers are hollow like the 15rd Mec-Gar version where the spring sits up and inside the follower for more room against compression.
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The SA magazines are 13rnds since they are based on the Hipower, and the DA are 14 just like the early M59 mags they are copies of.

They are not interchangeable......:confused:
 
Charles Daly brought them in for a while, as well. I've shot mine a fair bit (probably greater than 5K rounds, less than 10K) and had no issues whatsoever.
 
On mine, tough to engage (usually do with opposite hand), positive motion required to disengage (works okay with strong hand thumb).

but remember mine is a strict clone with the original safety lever design. There are a couple of later iterations with better interfaces there and on the slide release.
 
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I would say my friend's FEG had an easier to use safety on it than the one on my '66 T Series Hi-Power. I practically needed a mallet to get that thing on and off! Best safety, and an ambi one at that, is the one on my Hi-Power Mk.II.
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they're like the sks. when they were cheap, it was an amazing value. Now that they're not.......maybe not so much worth buying one. I'm still a little bitter that the charles daly one I bought on gunbroker back in 2006 or so for like $250 the seller cancelled on me with some BS story about sending it to iraq because he brother was deploying and wanted it. Whatever. grrrrrr. Pity the Tisas isn't a better gun. I want an affordable hi-power.
 
The seller maybe doing you a favor! :) Charles Daly is a wonderful FEG, I had one, can live with the huge roll mark, but hard to get used to the V cut fast action rear sight! The dovetail cut is unique that hard to find a replacement sight. Sold it!
 
NIGHTLORD40K said:
There was also a single-stack .45 FEG which was similiar to a scaled-up M39 which was neat looking. Never knew anybody who had ever shot one, so I cant speak to their reliability, though.
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The GKK. I have one; it is gorgeous on the outside, rough on the inside, as usual for FEGs. I got it because the previous owner had troubles with it; it has been an ongoing project. With standard SAAMI-spec hardball, with the original or either of two aftermarket mags, it double feeds, stovepipes, fails to feed a fresh cartridge into the chamber, flips a loaded round backwards and jams, or flips the empty case backwards and drops it back into the breech. It has just about every FTE and FTF problem I've heard of.

I've cleaned the extractor slot, eyeballed the hook shape, tested for extractor tension (lots!), looked at the marks on the feed ramp, inked the brass to look for marks, inked the breech area to see where the cartridges might be touching, hand-cycled dummy rounds, all to no avail. It's not like there's a vast pool of GKK gunsmithing lore to sift through, but it doesn't seem to have any of the problems that caused similar behavior in other autoloaders.

My latest theory is that the slide simply isn't coming back all the way, or not fast enough to reliably eject. Going to sloppy levels of lubrication let me go from two to three or four rounds before jamming, which tends to support that. So I loaded up a few mags of somewhat more authoritative ammo (low-end .45 Super) to see if the gun simply required more cowbell to function properly. Alas, the 'rona has made a trip to the range more trouble than it's worth, so I haven't tested it yet.
 
TRX said:
The GKK. I have one; it is gorgeous on the outside, rough on the inside, as usual for FEGs. I got it because the previous owner had troubles with it; it has been an ongoing project. With standard SAAMI-spec hardball, with the original or either of two aftermarket mags, it double feeds, stovepipes, fails to feed a fresh cartridge into the chamber, flips a loaded round backwards and jams, or flips the empty case backwards and drops it back into the breech. It has just about every FTE and FTF problem I've heard of.

I've cleaned the extractor slot, eyeballed the hook shape, tested for extractor tension (lots!), looked at the marks on the feed ramp, inked the brass to look for marks, inked the breech area to see where the cartridges might be touching, hand-cycled dummy rounds, all to no avail. It's not like there's a vast pool of GKK gunsmithing lore to sift through, but it doesn't seem to have any of the problems that caused similar behavior in other autoloaders.

My latest theory is that the slide simply isn't coming back all the way, or not fast enough to reliably eject. Going to sloppy levels of lubrication let me go from two to three or four rounds before jamming, which tends to support that. So I loaded up a few mags of somewhat more authoritative ammo (low-end .45 Super) to see if the gun simply required more cowbell to function properly. Alas, the 'rona has made a trip to the range more trouble than it's worth, so I haven't tested it yet.
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You gotta wonder if S&W ever made any prototypes of a .45 M39 and ran into similiar problems, thus leading to the much different (and larger) M645.
 
Marvin Gaye once sang..."Ain't nothin' like the real thing baby..". My opinion on clones and lookalikes, esp. with classics like the HP, PPK, etc., is that it's way more satisfying to get the real deal first and think about clones later.
 
NIGHTLORD40K said:
The SA magazines are 13rnds since they are based on the Hipower, and the DA are 14 just like the early M59 mags they are copies of.

They are not interchangeable......:confused:
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No, that's not what I'm talking about. Some of the early PJK/P9M magazines for the HP clones were marked as 14rd back in the early to mid-2000's like the DA version was. I'm not sure what the deal was, but I even remember seeing the 14rd witness hole. I was well aware of the factory 13rd, Mec-Gar 15rd, and DA 14rd magazines and the differences between them, so it was always a curiosity to me as to why they did that for awhile. But then people nowadays still talk about shaving the follower a bit and being able to put 14rds in a factory style mag.
 
outerlimit said:
No, that's not what I'm talking about. Some of the early PJK/P9M magazines for the HP clones were marked as 14rd back in the early to mid-2000's like the DA version was. I'm not sure what the deal was, but I even remember seeing the 14rd witness hole. I was well aware of the factory 13rd, Mec-Gar 15rd, and DA 14rd magazines and the differences between them, so it was always a curiosity to me as to why they did that for awhile. But then people nowadays still talk about shaving the follower a bit and being able to put 14rds in a factory style mag.
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Ahhhh, gotcha. Probably not a great idea, that. The British SAS guys, who may have put more rounds through Hipowers than any other users, swore by downloading the factory mags by 1 or 2 rounds to improve reliability.
 
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