THR Remington 1858 Club

For the 1858: 18 to 20 grains of 3F with a good fitting ball will produce good results, usually .454 but sometimes .457. A 9mm case full of cream of wheat on top of the powder fills the gap of the low charge. Grease on top of the ball or a thin lube/fiber wad between ball and powder keeps you shooting longer.

For the Navy 12 to 15 grains of 3F with a .380 ball, possibly a .375 ball will be your load, same as before fill the gap with cream of wheat on top of powder charge. I use a 32 ACP case full of filler for the .36 and then ball with a 50/50 mix of Crisco and beeswax on top. Not familiar with Rigarmi cylinder measurement specs, they all vary by brand/year especially older model c&b's. With current production Pietta a .375 ball will work, Uberti 36's seem to prefer a bigger (.380) ball to shave a ring. @Captain*kirk and I share the same sentiment, all of them are different. Takes a bit of development to get those ten ring groups.

Does anyone else like ivory gripped Remington 1858's ?

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Does anyone else like ivory gripped Remington 1858's ?

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Most definitely yes...I like it even if it's faux ivory! There's just something abut the contrast between a deep blued finish and ivory colored grips! Of course there's bonus points given if the blued finish has engraving underneath it!

Wow a group just for 1858 new Army owners maybe this is the place to find out what nipples I need for my Richland arms import it has no manufacturer stamp on it for that matter it has no proof marks either I'm guessing it was a kit

The only marks I have found is if you completely remove the cylinder latch pin you will see 219 stamp find the same stamp underneath the pistol grips

Blkpdrkid,

Do a google search and see what a can of worms you just tossed into the forum.

You are not the first to ask about Richland Arms New Model Army Remingtons.

The answer seems to be that Richland (an importer) bought from whomever had a NMA and some were made by ASM and some by others.

Good luck with it and let us know what you find out.

-kBob

LOL yeah I had noticed that why I was hoping somebody here could give me a little more help

This one seems to be as complicated as the pair of euroarms I used to have. makes me so glad that my Uberti is easy

I've seen a lot of brass frame Richland Arms Remingtons, seems like they are mostly made by multiple unremembered Italian cottage manufactures from the repro heyday.
Sorry, The "219" isn't likely to help one bit.

Blkpdrkid said:

Wow a group just for 1858 new Army owners maybe this is the place to find out what nipples I need for my Richland arms import it has no manufacturer stamp on it for that matter it has no proof marks either I'm guessing it was a kit

The only marks I have found is if you completely remove the cylinder latch pin you will see 219 stamp find the same stamp underneath the pistol grips

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I doubt that many makers made brass frame Remingtons, perhaps ASM & Pietta?
If it was made by ASM then Deer Creek Products in Waldron, Indiana sells nipples for it.
They list ASM nipples as being 12 X 28 [listed under ASM Colt 1860 Army parts] --->>> http://www.deercreekproducts.net/store/c20/1860_Colt_ASM_Revolver_Parts.html

IIRC folks here have said that a person can send one of their nipples in to Track of the Wolf and they will try to match it up.
Before you do that maybe you can call them and see what they say. --->>> https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Search.aspx?search=nipples
Another outfit to ask may be Dixie Gun Works. --->>> https://www.dixiegunworks.com

Here's a chart with some common nipple thread sizes.
If you can find a screw at a hardware store that fits the threads then that would help.
Or perhaps use a thread gauge to help determine what size the threads are.
12 X 28 nipple threads fit the TC Seneca, Cherokee rifles and Patriot pistol if you can find one to only check the threads, since the nipple cone may not be the same.

OK COUNT ME IN . BEEMAXView attachment 974905

Thank you, this forum plus the Ruger and I am all set. I love
the NMA Remington almost as much as the Old Army. Thanks
to THR staff for keeping up with this.

Hi Guys, does this still count?



It is an 1858 Remington snubnose .22 conversion.

Very cool Lars.

Picked this up today

I've been wanting one for a while, to go with my 1860 Army

SWEET! Looks like a heck of a range you have, too! Lucky dog.

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Hi Guys, does this still count?

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It is an 1858 Remington snubnose .22 conversion.

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Does anyone know where the arbor pin lock like on this snubby can be purchased? I had a link once, but lost it.

Here ya go Capt
https://www.howellarms.com/parts/1858-remington-cylinder-pin-quick-release

Interestingly, my Uberti 58s with Taylor’s conversion cylinders were my most accurate pistols. More than my Rugers, more than my Kimber, etc.

I'm considering buying a very nice vintage Remington 1858 New Model Army which appears to be unfired. It's in original condition, nipples as new and I'm planning on shooting it should I follow through with the purchase Does anyone here in the club have an antique Remington 1858 that they also shoot, I would really appreciate your impressions and insights.

Just skip through the boring parts.




In this video after 8:25, he said that he installed reproduction nipples in his original cylinder.
He fires the Remington in 2 segments of the video, before and after the Colt.


At 23:20, he begins the Remington segment of the video.
He states the diameter of the barrel lands & grooves, and the chamber mouth diameter.

LarsUlmann said:

Hi Guys, does this still count?

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It is an 1858 Remington snubnose .22 conversion.

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Your bore diameter looks a lot larger than .22
LOL
Is there an actual .22 barrel back in there somewhere or is the cylinder all the "barrel" you have?

There is a 2" rifled barrel insert in it of course. (KK solution)
By pulling it out together with the .22 cylinder and putting the .45LC cylinder in I can have a .45 again anytime.
However my original intention was to have a not so noisy self-defense gun that can be used indoors, while being relatively small.
The .22 weight without the rounds is 1080g so it is still rather on the heavy side but I can live with it.
I am working on a DIY laser sight for it right now (for easier aiming during night).
Ohh and the arbor pin lock is made by me as well

Thank you Articap! I couldn't find any mentioning of replacing the nipples with reproduction nipples though. Vids #2 and #3 are the same.

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Just skip through the boring parts.




In this video he said that he installed reproduction nipples in his original cylinder.
He fires the Remington in 2 segments of the video, before and after the Colt.


At 23:20, he begins the Remington segment of the video.
He states the diameter of the barrel lands & grooves, and the chamber mouth diameter.

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