Ever have a pistol regularly jump carry rotation?

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A few months ago I purchased two Stoeger STR9 Compact pistols (because 2 is better than 1, right?). They do have consecutive serial numbers, which is kind of neat.

I ran into a couple logistical problems with them. First, it was so new to the market that I couldn't find any pistol-specific Kydex IWB holsters for them.
Second, I couldn't locate any 13-round compact magazines, though 15-round mags for the full size exist.

I got around the holster issue after discovering the kydex holsters for the SAR9 fit nearly perfectly (I have 2 SAR9s). As for the magazines, I simply use the magazine from the second STR9c as the spare.

Now I find myself carrying the STR9c most often, even though I didn't really intend to carry it. My primary carry is suppose to be my Sig 365 or gen4 G19.

I find the STR9c easier and more comfortable to carry than either the P365 or G19. I also find it amazingly ergonomic and points very well. I find the front sight seemingly tracts automatically on target when drawing.

So here I have a "budget" Turkish handgun cutting the line and skipping carry rotation.

Has anyone else experienced this?
 
The concealed carry world seems to change every few years with improvements in guns, retainment, training, and or ammo; or just plain o’ choices. The serious student of the craft keeps his eye on these changes and makes the necessary adaptations where needed. It’s not always the”Best”, more prestigious, or better quality equipment, it’s what works best for YOU and your application.

To answer your question simply, yes, I’ve been in your shoes.

Sometimes I don’t understand other folks choices of Concealed Carry, but I try not judge. Sometimes I really, really try. :)
 
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I find the STR9c easier and more comfortable to carry than either the P365 or G19. I also find it amazingly ergonomic and points very well. I find the front sight seemingly tracts automatically on target when drawing.
So here I have a "budget" Turkish handgun cutting the line and skipping carry rotation.
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I can't say I have ever experienced that kind of rotational line cutting though I did try something like that when I got my Ruger SR9c. I was somewhat amazed with how nice it felt in my hand, how great the trigger was, how quick and easy the sights were acquired, and how comfortable it was to carry it with the right holster.

Normally my carry rotation consists of a Kahr CM9 and a S&W Model 638 and nothing has changed with that but it was comforting to know that if I ever wanted to take out something with a few more rounds to it (along with a spare magazine which holds 17 rounds), there was little or no adjustment needed on my part to carry the Ruger SR9c.
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Rotation? Nope, no “rotation” to “jump.”

It is not that I do not have several carry options, but the choice, at any given time, is based upon tactical and strategic considerations regarding my route and destination, and such personal factors as whether my aging shoulder and/or thumb are having a bad day. Even COVID has become a factor, as I need more-frequent training to feel comfortable carrying a Glock. (My DA revolver skills are much less-perishable, over time.)
 
Totally random: the Walther P99 'AS' (DA/SA, * striker-fired:what:), Sig P6, even the nifty CZ PCR. Variety keeps us thinking, and the pair of all-metal guns don't seem heavy.

By the way, the paddle mag release on trigger guard of the Walther is easy to get used to, and I use my support Thumb. Your hand is always removed from a gun to grab the next mag--right? The thumb comes down, and....this same thumb was used on "Euro mag release" of the Makarov. Not hard to figure out how to 'adapt' this thumb, is it?

All of these 9mm types are extremely dependable, as was the .380 Makarov which preceded them.
 
Trunk Monkey said:
Having a "rotation" usually carries the connotation that you're switching guns because you're bored with the one you've been carrying
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Eh, as I noted in another thread where the concept of "carry rotation" came up, I am entirely comfortable with choosing the pistol (or revolver) of the day based solely on whimsy or nostalgia or the color of my shirt or my wife's dress or what my dog tells me to carry, or just 'cause it's Friday. It's not 'cause I'm bored. It's 'cause I don't like to be boring ...

So my answer to the OP's question would be, "Well, hell yeah, of course."
 
Primary Carry - is a GLOCK Slimline G36 .45 ACP/230 gr., in a Galco Stow-n-go suede IWB holster.

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The Sig P938 9mm/147 gr., also in a Galco Stow-n-go suede IWB holster, goes where the G36 can't.

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So, not a "rotation," per say.

...more of an Algorithm.




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A benefit to being poor, I do not have that decision to make.
It is Glock 26 or no pistol.
When I first got my CCW permit I had a model 60 S&W. Next came and went a Walther P5c.
In the off chance I have to use a firearm for self defense I want it to be something plain that works.
 
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It may be just me, but the idea of a rotation of CC handguns is sketchy, if the ' rotation of these handguns includes those having different operating characteristics especially. Familiarity with that pistol is absolutely critical in a huge adrenaline dump situation, denying fine motor skills and perhaps momentarily removing the thought process from the threat to remember....oh this Sig has a thumb safety. I'm not promoting not having multiple pistols, just wondering how many folks can manage successfully several different types effectively on the worst day of your life.
 
I carry different pistols at times, but they all operate the same.

If on a day that I feel cagey and have a 1911 with me, I’ll always be conscious of it, and it’s thumb safety, because of the steering-wheel pull to the right side...;)
 
Kinda. I don't have a "rotation" per say, but I will occasionally switch carry guns if I'm shooting it better at the range than my current carry gun at the time. I'm to the point where I shoot pretty much any style gun mostly the same, just little differences in split time or draw speed.

But, often, after a thousand or so rounds through a new pistol (which I usually shoot almost exclusively at the time because I'm excited about a new gun) I'll deem it suitable for carry and carry it for a while.

Usually within 6 months I have a Glock 19 back in the holster though.
 
I usually only have one or two that I carry regularly, based on the environments I travel to, and the weather and clothing...and not on much else. I have a number of other handguns I rotate occasionally, but my choices usually remain in place for many months. I do sometimes switch one out for one in the safe. Rotating is usually something which I contemplate for days before actually doing it. I'm not impulsive or frivolous abou it. I sometimes switch my Shield for a Makarov and keep it that way for months. Often that happens in the dead of winter. My Beraa recently took the place of my Hi-Power as a secondary. Adapting to change is a case of careful contemplative decisive committal, and one needs to be ready for that or stick with what he's got. No in between.

Only real exception is my Charter Arms Bulldog 6inch 357 which is always ready for trail, yard or home defense.
 
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Risky buisness said:
It may be just me, but the idea of a rotation of CC handguns is sketchy, if the ' rotation of these handguns includes those having different operating characteristics especially. Familiarity with that pistol is absolutely critical in a huge adrenaline dump situation, denying fine motor skills and perhaps momentarily removing the thought process from the threat to remember....oh this Sig has a thumb safety. I'm not promoting not having multiple pistols, just wondering how many folks can manage successfully several different types effectively on the worst day of your life.
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I wasn't gonna respond to this as I've been pretty clear on this subject in a lot of recent threads ... but, it's getting late, I'm weary of the negative election news and a little bored.

Having been in some "huge adrenaline dump situations;" I'm very clear that I've always been keenly aware of exactly which firearms I had on my person at the time, and been fully cognizant of their "operating characteristics" when those guns were immediately needed. To be perfectly honest, it's not been about the gun; it's been about recognizing that the gun was needed (and I can neither confirm nor deny that there may have been one time I needed to change my drawers after a situation; as most soldiers and cops well know, empty your bladder when you have the opportunity, don't wait). But, there's a very simple concept that some of us refer to as training.

Handguns, in particular, do not involve a knowledge of rocket science. If you carry a handgun in the same location regularly, you draw and pull trigger. If you're used to thumbing off a safety, even if the handgun you are drawing doesn't have one, you're not wasting time, assuming you're doing so during the draw-stroke and have engaged in repetitive, productive training. Acquire a good sight picture, utilize the trigger control you've practiced.

Just seems to me that too many folks way overthink this process. One suspects that the people who always bring this concept up: those having different operating characteristics might be mainly the millenials who came up on Glocks and never knew anything else. Most of use who came up on revolvers, 1911s, 3rd Gen S&Ws and the M9 don't seem to have any problems ...
 
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I rotate 1911s and an emp 4" same controls. I have no reason to do that except I like to exchange them sometimes. I use to rotate lots of pistols but realized I had too many and I had to think through manual safety or not and grip angles and other tidbits. which would have slowed me down if I needed to ever use it.
 
In a recent post, some folks here seem to believe that switching out personal carry firearms perhaps regularly is just fine. Well. Ya'll do you you. In the presence of huge adrenaline dumps, that " I'm keenly aware of exactly what firearm I'm carrying " is an absolute misnomer, with the previously stated exception of similarity of operation, this is the crux of the discussion. While similar characteristics allow no discernible mental or physical problems in the operation of that particular gun, it's the cross genre and features things that do. Regular practice with a particular firearm, will eliminate a confused presentation, only to have to replicate that when switching one for another, again, outside the similar operating characteristics. And actually, how many folks just slip that J frame in the pocket for the go to the store thing, when that Sig 320 is the usual carry option ?Having not posted here for some time, I recall exactly why, where self style pundits allude to some posters age as a definitive measure of inaccuracy, or that their stated position has been very clear, as if to disallow any differing opinion in a rational discussion.
But I digress. Having been in several confirmed adrenaline dump situations, one with my duty revolver, humm, perhaps that disqualifies me from being a millenial, and another with a 1911, does lead me to a conclusion, as referenced by past experiences. Carry what ever firearm your comfortable with, if you desire a rotation, by all means do so, but at least realize that cross types or differing controls will, depending upon the time you spend cross training, effect an outcome.
 
Risky buisness said:
In a recent post, some folks here seem to believe that switching out personal carry firearms perhaps regularly is just fine. Well. Ya'll do you you. In the presence of huge adrenaline dumps, that " I'm keenly aware of exactly what firearm I'm carrying " is an absolute misnomer, with the previously stated exception of similarity of operation, this is the crux of the discussion. While similar characteristics allow no discernible mental or physical problems in the operation of that particular gun, it's the cross genre and features things that do. Regular practice with a particular firearm, will eliminate a confused presentation, only to have to replicate that when switching one for another, again, outside the similar operating characteristics. And actually, how many folks just slip that J frame in the pocket for the go to the store thing, when that Sig 320 is the usual carry option ?Having not posted here for some time, I recall exactly why, where self style pundits allude to some posters age as a definitive measure of inaccuracy, or that their stated position has been very clear, as if to disallow any differing opinion in a rational discussion.
But I digress. Having been in several confirmed adrenaline dump situations, one with my duty revolver, humm, perhaps that disqualifies me from being a millenial, and another with a 1911, does lead me to a conclusion, as referenced by past experiences. Carry what ever firearm your comfortable with, if you desire a rotation, by all means do so, but at least realize that cross types or differing controls will, depending upon the time you spend cross training, effect an outcome.
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Yes, Cross train with your weapons and become familiar with them is the key. I have no problem at all with any of my carry weapons. Others should speak for themselves ONLY. If you cannot shoot other Carry guns in rotation that is not my problem or anyone else's but yourself and only yourself.
 
Ernie Bass said:
If you cannot shoot other Carry guns in rotation that is not my problem or anyone else's but yourself and only yourself.
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It is not a matter of whether one can shoot. We've been over that.

Old Dog said:
If you carry a handgun in the same location regularly, you draw and pull trigger.
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Makes sense to me. I have firearms with grip safeties and ones without. One draws and pulls the trigger, as you say.

Old Dog said:
If you're used to thumbing off a safety, even if the handgun you are drawing doesn't have one, you're not wasting time, assuming you're doing so during the draw-stroke and have engaged in repetitive, productive training.
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I'm not used to it, but I think that if I were to draw a 1911, I would realize immediately the need to disengage the safety as part of gripping the gun--without wasting time.

I would be less sure if the safeties differed among the guns.
 
Kleanbore said:
It is not a matter of whether one can shoot. We've been over that.
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Yes we have been over it many times and it is a matter of a persons ability with their own firearms. You really need to speak for YOURSELF. Please do not include me or others in your belief or personal view. Again, if you cannot, then that is fine.
 
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