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A few years ago I also tried to find info on civilian Walkers and was surprised to find very little. I myself have never seen a Walker with a rear barrel lug sight, just the 3rd model Dragoon. Having said that I have no doubt such could be found somewhere, but couldn't that've been a special order ? To accompany a shoulder stock maybe ?

Does anyone happen to know where {on the gun} the original Civilian Walkers were marked, and how? These would be the Walkers numbered 1001-1100. I'm assuming no company assignments or military inspector's cartouches...I can find very little on the internet regarding these 100 guns and whether or not any remain in collections or museums.
Also, which Walkers were fitted with a rear barrel lug sight, as many of the early ASMs are outfitted?
 
My Walker was (apparently) retrofitted with a (rather ugly!) buckhorn fixed sight that someone dovetailed in...right through the "Address Sam'l Colt" marking (see pic below). There is probably little I can do to fix it now, I've been trying to find out if this came from ASM like this or if it was somebody's home-brewed nightmare. I'm guessing the latter. It irks me, but nothing I can do about it. I was maybe hoping to find a 3rd Dragoon 3 leaf sight to install in it's place. I want the gun to look period-correct.

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I'm inclined to agree with you that it's probably a homemade job. I'm thinking eBay the likliest place one might pop up, there and perhaps Gunbroker.com. You can create a custom eBay search for the sight, should one surface you'd get an email notice.
I see you have a cap post to prevent spent caps from falling into the action, is that OutlawKid's work ?

My Walker was (apparently) retrofitted with a (rather ugly!) buckhorn fixed sight that someone dovetailed in...right through the "Address Sam'l Colt" marking (see pic below). There is probably little I can do to fix it now, I've been trying to find out if this came from ASM like this or if it was somebody's home-brewed nightmare. I'm guessing the latter. It irks me, but nothing I can do about it. I was maybe hoping to find a 3rd Dragoon 3 leaf sight to install in it's place. I want the gun to look period-correct.

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I'm inclined to agree with you that it's probably a homemade job. I'm thinking eBay the likliest place one might pop up, there and perhaps Gunbroker.com. You can create a custom eBay search for the sight, should one surface you'd get an email notice.
I see you have a cap post to prevent spent caps from falling into the action, is that OutlawKid's work ?
Nope. This one just came back from Goon. Note the action shield as well...
 
Fascinating! From all the civvie models shown, most appear to be Whitneyvilles with shorter barrels (or longer loading levers) and are equipped with Dragoon-style loading lever/latch assemblies. But no rear sights.
 
OK, so here's a question for you Walker junkies; I loaded up a test round for my conversion cylinder last night. .45 Colt, 35gr of 3F behind a 250gr cast bullet. COL set at 1.585. It fits my Remington conversion cylinder with a little room to spare and should be producing roughly 885 fps MV. Slipped into the Walker conversion cylinder, though...there is a whole lotta unused space in the front of that cylinder. Since a Walker can supposedly handle up to 60 grains of 3f powder, it got me to thinking. And then I found this:

https://www.starlinebrass.com/454-casull-brass

From the Starline website:

Originating in 1957, the .454 Casull is one of the most powerful revolver cartridges available today. This is basically a magnum version of the .45 Colt. It has been lengthened by .100" so it can't be fired in a .45 Colt firearm, though .45 Colt can be fired safely in a .454 Casull.

An extra .100 of case length should allow for a bunch more black powder to be loaded under those 250 grainers, begging answers to the following questions:

1) Has anyone tried this, and what were the results?

2) Am I overlooking something? If the original C&B cylinder can handle 60 grains, shouldn't a modern conversion cylinder be able to handle it?

Any information and/or comments would be much appreciated. I would hate to buy a bunch of cases and not be able to use them. I'd hate even worse to stress the gun or blow it up. Just to clarify, I'm talking black powder, not smokeless.
 
An extra .100 of case length should allow for a bunch more black powder to be loaded under those 250 grainers, begging answers to the following questions:

1) Has anyone tried this, and what were the results?

2) Am I overlooking something? If the original C&B cylinder can handle 60 grains, shouldn't a modern conversion cylinder be able to handle it?

Any information and/or comments would be much appreciated. I would hate to buy a bunch of cases and not be able to use them. I'd hate even worse to stress the gun or blow it up. Just to clarify, I'm talking black powder, not smokeless.

Here's the search results showing all of the posts made by Clembert about his .45 BPM [Black Powder Magnum]. --->>> https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?search/46421529/&q=.45+BPM&o=date&c[node]=12&c[user][0]=95314

Follow the threads from the beginning and you should see how he made it and test fired it.
Here's info. on the .45 BPM wildcat cartridge developed just for a Walker conversion. --->>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Black_Powder_Magnum
 
I finally added an ASM Walker to my safe earlier this year. it looks like it's unfired and has a 1983 date code. I acquired it as part of a lot through an auction. I'm finally finding time to fool with it. I'll post a pic when I get a chance.

I'd like to see what holsters you guys are using for your Walkers. I'm planning to make a crossdraw holster for mine and I'm looking for ideas.
 
Fix the arbor before you shoot it much. Also check the fit of the nipples, mine were loose in the holes and would blow out occasionally. I fitted a set of Hot Shot nipples and no problems since.
 
What fix is needed on the arbor? Still trying to read through all the pages in this thread. Plan to order a set of Slix Shot nipples.
 
What fix is needed on the arbor? Still trying to read through all the pages in this thread. Plan to order a set of Slix Shot nipples.
If it's a Uberti, it's 100% that the arbor is short. If ASM probably 50/50. There are a ton of threads here regarding the short arbor problem and fixes. Use the search bar.
 
What fix is needed on the arbor? Still trying to read through all the pages in this thread. Plan to order a set of Slix Shot nipples.

There's more than one reason to fix the arbor.
One reason is that the barrel - cylinder gap won't stay the same after the wedge is removed and inserted each time.
A short arbor can also put pressure on the wedge which can damage the wedge and/or the barrel slots for the wedge.
Page 2 Post #35 describes how to check the arbor and Page 3 Post #53 describes how to do a quick fix with shims. --->>> https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ed-on-my-third-black-powder-gun.870729/page-2
Read from post #35 through post #53.
 
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Basically the gun will beat itself to death, as in stretching of the frame at the wedge, barrel to cylinder gap gets wider every time you shoot it.
 
OK, so here's a question for you Walker junkies; I loaded up a test round for my conversion cylinder last night. .45 Colt, 35gr of 3F behind a 250gr cast bullet. COL set at 1.585. It fits my Remington conversion cylinder with a little room to spare and should be producing roughly 885 fps MV. Slipped into the Walker conversion cylinder, though...there is a whole lotta unused space in the front of that cylinder. Since a Walker can supposedly handle up to 60 grains of 3f powder, it got me to thinking. And then I found this:

https://www.starlinebrass.com/454-casull-brass

From the Starline website:

Originating in 1957, the .454 Casull is one of the most powerful revolver cartridges available today. This is basically a magnum version of the .45 Colt. It has been lengthened by .100" so it can't be fired in a .45 Colt firearm, though .45 Colt can be fired safely in a .454 Casull.

An extra .100 of case length should allow for a bunch more black powder to be loaded under those 250 grainers, begging answers to the following questions:

1) Has anyone tried this, and what were the results?

2) Am I overlooking something? If the original C&B cylinder can handle 60 grains, shouldn't a modern conversion cylinder be able to handle it?

Any information and/or comments would be much appreciated. I would hate to buy a bunch of cases and not be able to use them. I'd hate even worse to stress the gun or blow it up. Just to clarify, I'm talking black powder, not smokeless.
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