GP100 DIY trigger job

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I have a SS 4.2” GP100 that I bought new about 5 years ago.

One of the first things I did after bringing it home was install Williams Fire Sights fiber optic sights front and rear. In single action it is one of my favorite handguns to shoot. The sight picture in adequate light is precise. The heaviness makes .38 special tame and full-house .357 manageable.

The single action trigger has always seemed adequate.The double action trigger pull on the other hand, was almost unusable, even after the thousands of rounds I’ve put through it and dry firing I’ve done.

I happened to pick up a Match Champion, a Smith, and a new Colt King Cobra last week and it made me realize how awful the trigger was on mine. So, i reached out to a local gunsmith about doing a trigger job. He was backlogged as is everyone at this time. So I decided to tackle the job myself.

I ordered a set of springs from Wilson Combat and started reading and watching everything I could about the subject while I waited for them to arrive. I found a pdf called Lowegan’s book of knowledge that thoroughly detailed the inner workings of my gun and gave general advice about improving the action.

The day before the springs arrived, I almost completely disassembled my revolver (for the first time ever) and cleaned everything thoroughly. I then took a Dremmel tool with a felt polishing tip and polished all the recommended touch points with Flitz paste to smooth out the action. I was careful to avoid taking any metal from the hammer and sear. It was easy to see where the trigger parts had been touching so I polished those really well. I also smoothed out the trigger return housing by hand-turning a 13/64 drill bit inside the cavity.

I then put it back together dry and clean to see what effect the polishing had. There was a noticeable difference. The DA pull was still heavy but it was much smoother. The SA break was crisper as well.

The next day the springs arrived. I installed a 10# hammer spring and an 8# trigger spring, lubed everything with oil, and went to test reliability. 4 out of 100 rounds loaded with CCI 550 small pistol magnum primers failed to fire in double action. So, when I got home I removed the 10# hammer spring and installed the 12#.

Here are the before/after lbs.of pull at each stage with a subjective feel description:

Stock (14# hammer spring,12# trigger return spring, no internal polishing, 5 years of use)
• DA - 12 + with a long, 3 stage, heavy pull
• SA - 6 with a fairly okay break

After polishing internals:
• DA - 11.5 with a smoother 2-stage pull
• SA - 5.6 with a crisper, cleaner break

With 10#/8# spring combo
• DA - 8.3 with a less pronounced stack at the end
• SA - 3.8 crisp and clean

With 12#/8# spring combo
• DA - 9.5 with the same slight stack as 10# spring, a little disappointingly heavy compared to 10# spring but WAY better than with stock spring
• SA - 4.3 with same crisp and clean break

I could probably do way better with some shims where appropriate. Stoning internal touch points would be more effective also but fear of taking off too much metal makes me nervous. Still, I achieved a DA trigger I can actually use and a much improved SA trigger pull. I would compare my results with the 10# hammer spring installed with the Smith’s trigger I tried. I suppose I could reinstall it and use softer Federal primers exclusively. Maybe soon I’ll get into it again and try to make the 10# spring reliable with all primers. For now though, I’m happy with the improvement I made.

Cost:
Springs - $9.99 + $9.99 shipping
Dremmel tool and attachment - $54
Flitz - $9
Total - $83
 
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The first firearm I ever bought for myself was a Stainless GP100. Shot it a lot and I like it....
funny thing though, I don’t think I’ve shot it in years!
The chances I do get to shoot are usually rifles and my BHP.
This topic got my gears turning though
 
Nice write up. I’ve used the disassemble and polish process a few times.

However, with two guns this year, I used a new process I didn’t read about, I just winged it. It involves gun disassembly, Wheeler 600 grit lapping compound, gun reassembly, dry fire a few hundred times, gun disassembly and thorough cleaning, spring replacement, gun lubrication and reassembly.

It worked well enough that I won’t polish parts by hand anymore because I found I was polishing surfaces that already didn’t have interferences / didn’t need it. I was also surprised at how many more surfaces the Wheeler compound lapped in my S&W compared to my Kimber.
 
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Iowegan knows his stuff!

AND, from personal experience, if you go too far Ruger will return to factory spec.

Do be careful with the light weight springs. On my blackhawk I opted against reducing main spring but did give a slightly lowered trigger return spring. This does increase smoothness but does not change the impact pressure of the hammer on the firing pin and subsequently primer ignition.

A good soak in cylinder & slide polydunk kit can also help smoothness by washing out any metal scraps in there. You'd be surprised what a firearm can turn out this way - scrap and such from the part deburring themselves during assembly and test as well as carbon and lead from use over time.

GP100 is iconic and working on it can be a lot of fun. Enjoy.

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That's good work. I tried this on a few Rugers but usually stopped short of swapping springs. I thought shims were warranted in a few cases when the trigger and hammer were obviously rocking unnecessarily in their slot. In every case I wasn't satisfied and accepted things as they were or gave up, returned to stock, and sold the gun. They just shouldn't be that much work to shoot as delivered. I ended up keeping an older 6" GP100 that was better from the factory than my other guns were after polishing and shimming, and traded the SP101 for an LCR. I also kept a beautiful blued 2 1/2" security six with a fantastic trigger.

The common advice to "just shoot the darn thing" is misguided, in my opinion, because as you have noted there's only so much natural break in occurring. I spent years dry firing my first GP100 and it had nothing on a little polishing work or spring swapping. A lot of wasted effort better spent on a gunsmith. Or a different gun........
 
Update: I found a feeler gauge in my tool box. Just for giggles I used it and found there is .011 of play in the hammer. I ordered some hammer shims and hope they will smooth it out enough to use the 10# spring with 100% reliability.
 
When I decided I wanted a 3” GP100, I read up on trigger jobs, because everything I read said they needed one. After all, I figured I was spoiled by my S&W Model 15, and it’s well worn in trigger.
Well, come to find out the GP100 I got has a great trigger right from the factory...I wouldn’t change a thing, it’s seriously comparable to the old Model 15!
Guess I got lucky.
 
I went and dug mine out to fiddle with my curiosity...
I don’t have a trigger scale, but the single action is remarkably light with a very clean break. The double action isn’t bad. Definitely 2 stages to it, couldn’t really feel a third. Also broke real crisply. I’m not sure I even want to mess with it, cuz it’s pretty dang good.
(But I still may)
 
My GP 100 tune up started with hammer shims due to the hammer rubbing the frame. Then came hammer dog shims to center the dog and lessen the slop. Next sanding and polishing rough spots on the main spring strut. Several thousands rounds helped smooth the action even more. Later I installed a 12# mainspring. My two GPs were pretty good out of the box but my SP101 was really rough. I did all the above mods plus a 10# main spring and the trigger's very smooth and reliable now. No light strikes through 1000+ rounds with a 10# main spring. I learned a trick to make reinstalling the hammer/ shims easier and make sure the shims don't get "lost." After inserting the hammer & shims back into the frame I use a feeler gauge between the frame and hammer to slightly push the shim off center. I do this while looking through the hole for the pin(hammer assembly). I use a bamboo skewer through the hole to recenter the shim. I do this to make sure a shim didn't slide out of position while installing the hammer. I started doing this extra step after a shim worked it's way out at the range.
 
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When I decided I wanted a 3” GP100, I read up on trigger jobs, because everything I read said they needed one. After all, I figured I was spoiled by my S&W Model 15, and it’s well worn in trigger.
Well, come to find out the GP100 I got has a great trigger right from the factory...I wouldn’t change a thing, it’s seriously comparable to the old Model 15!
Guess I got lucky.

No, you did not get lucky.

Bashing Ruger triggers has always been very
fashionable when reporting on them vs. the
usual triggers found on a S&W.

Neither company puts out very bad trigger
pulls although often heavier than a lot of
users wish.

A point or two in Ruger's favor is that the
company puts out videos on breaking down
their handguns and doesn't seem to mind
people believing they are all instant
gunsmiths.

As a result, the world--or rather the internet
and gun forums---is full of gunsmithing
commentary, often of the negative sort.

Oh, just to set the record straight, I am a
fanboy of S&W revolvers but I do like Rugers
too. And the Smith Model 15 is my all-time
like model.
 
I don’t own a trigger scale either. I do have a precise 30 kilogram scale though. I fed kite string through the trigger guard, cut about an 18” length and tied an end to each side of the handle of a 5 gallon bucket. I then placed the kite string on the bottom part of the trigger and let the bucket hang free while holding the revolver up. I filled the bucket with water until the trigger broke and weighed the bucket and water to get the lb. of break.
 
I plan on dabbing some Hoppe’s gun grease on the shims to “glue” them in place for installation.
 
No, you did not get lucky.

Bashing Ruger triggers has always been very
fashionable when reporting on them vs. the
usual triggers found on a S&W.

Neither company puts out very bad trigger
pulls although often heavier than a lot of
users wish.

A point or two in Ruger's favor is that the
company puts out videos on breaking down
their handguns and doesn't seem to mind
people believing they are all instant
gunsmiths.

As a result, the world--or rather the internet
and gun forums---is full of gunsmithing
commentary, often of the negative sort.

Oh, just to set the record straight, I am a
fanboy of S&W revolvers but I do like Rugers
too. And the Smith Model 15 is my all-time
like model.
I have read stories multiple times of folks getting a subjectively great trigger on a Ruger out the box. When I bought my GP100, I had no point of reference for trigger quality like many of you. I just knew that my single action was fine and the double- action was almost unusable. I thought it was a safety feature. It wasn’t until years later that I realized there were better triggers available. By that time, I was so accustomed to SA only that it didn’t matter much. Honestly, the whole experience has been positive for me. I got to see how my revolver works and what affects the subjective feel and measurable pull weight of a trigger. I am coming to realize that smooth but a little heavy can be subjectively “better” than gritty and a little lighter.
 
Joe Texas,

I do like your bucket and water method for
finding out a trigger weight. It should be
marketed as the "JT Trigger Scale." You
will make millions of dollars.
 
The secret to getting a decent DA pull on a Ruger revolver is to remove all of the burrs that Ruger leaves in their frames and trigger assemblies. There will be a lot of them. Ruger does not spend any time on de-burring their guns - trust me on this. They build really great guns for the price but they will be rough out of the box. After you find and remove all of the burrs THEN you can polish bearing surfaces and play with springs and shims. Ruger DA revolvers can be made very nice to shoot but they will NEVER be as nice as a tuned S&W action - the parts geometry is just completely different. I have worked on many of both brands and the S&W design is the smoothest I have seen - stock or tuned.
 
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The secret to getting a decent DA pull on a Ruger revolver is to remove all of the burrs that Ruger leaves in their frames and trigger assemblies.

I ended up just buying a new Hammer Strut for my GP100. The original one on the gun looked like it had been chewed on. I probably should have complained to Ruger as looking back I'm sure their customer service would have handled it but the new one was under $10. Once I changed that out, added the hammer shims and went slightly lower on springs it basically feels like a professional job. I've dry fired a couple of Match Champions and all of them were noticeably heavier and less smooth than my gun.
 
I don't change springs in my Ruger revolvers, so take that as the context for my comment below:

In my experience, the biggest bang for the buck in a GP100/SP101/Super Redhawk trigger job is to deburr/smooth the INSIDE of the trigger return spring housing. It's usually very rough in there and that translates directly to grittiness in the DA pull as the coils of the trigger return spring grate over the roughness.
 
Update: I ended up shimming my hammer. It had .011 play and rub marks. I ordered two .004 shims from Triggershims.com for $6.

I need to brag on them a bit. In these slow mail/shipping times, my shims came in quickly. I ordered them on Sunday night. They shipped Monday morning and arrived Thursday. I got a personal email from Lance the owner early on Monday morning, thanking me for my purchase. They have a great selection, how-to videos, and fast shipping. If you haven’t measured already, they have feeler gauges for sale to measure to the thousandths and shim kits to address what you find. Plus, they didn’t tack on anything for shipping and handling like many companies do, even for lightweight items. I’d buy from them again.

Anyway, I put one on either side. It made the double action pull so much smoother than it already was that I went ahead and put the 10# hammer spring back in. I’ll be testing ignition on magnum primers today. If it ends up being reliable, I’ll have a legitimately useful DA trigger on a gun that didn’t before. More than useful - it’s actually pleasant.
 
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BTW - After having accomplished improving my GP100, I got a little cocky and took my Single Six apart to see what I could do with it. That’s a completely different animal. I also have a “Old Model” Vaquero in 45 Colt I was thinking about. After struggling a bit with the Single Six, I may just leave well enough alone. It made me realize how user-friendly the takedown is on the GP/SP type actions.
 
BTW - After having accomplished improving my GP100, I got a little cocky and took my Single Six apart to see what I could do with it. That’s a completely different animal. I also have a “Old Model” Vaquero in 45 Colt I was thinking about. After struggling a bit with the Single Six, I may just leave well enough alone. It made me realize how user-friendly the takedown is on the GP/SP type actions.
The difference between an amateur gunsmith and a 'bubba' is doing the research, working carefully and knowing your current limitations. Sounds like you're making all the right choices to me.

Larry
 
I did that by hand turning a drill bit in there. I’m sure it helped.
That should work. I usually find a dowel about the right diameter and wrap some sandpaper around it and use that to smooth things. When it's pretty smooth with one grit, you can go to a finer grit and keep up the process until it's super smooth. Then clean all the grit and crud out of there very carefully and reassemble with a dab of grease wiped on the spring before it is installed.
 
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