Weird CCW: short barreled single action.

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I wasn't clear with what I meant by comfort level that you so quickly dismissed, but what I was trying to convey was a comfort level within yourself, with who you are, what you basically believe/know/are confident you
If all of that is based on informed judgment, great.

It rarely is.
 
That is very nice, I really gotta handle a Thunderer and see if I like the grip.
I looked hard at getting a single action 'Bird'sHead'..finally handled one at a local Cabelas and didn't like it at all...wandering around a LGS here, he had the Beretta
'Thunderer'...and really liked that. I had to do some research as to how the 'Bird's Head' and 'Thunderer' differed..very informative and I bought the Thunderer.

Just different enough to make a big difference to me. UBERTI-BIRDSHEAD-SAA-MAGNA-TUSK-AGED-IVORY-GRIPS-_1 copy.jpg
 
I looked hard at getting a single action 'Bird'sHead'..finally handled one at a local Cabelas and didn't like it at all...wandering around a LGS here, he had the Beretta
'Thunderer'...and really liked that. I had to do some research as to how the 'Bird's Head' and 'Thunderer' differed..very informative and I bought the Thunderer.

Just different enough to make a big difference to me.

I've never handled either one, but the Thunderer does appear more comfortable.

For belt carry I would probable prefer the traditional Model P grip. I can shoot them rather well.

I was turned off by the Thunderer, for what may seem as silly reason: it is modeled after the Colt Lightning, but it is single action. That did not seem right to me.

Of course, the Lightning was prone to breakage. Perhaps there's not way to fit a DA mechanism in that frame shape.

What do you like about that grip vs the Model P?
 
I've never handled either one, but the Thunderer does appear more comfortable.

For belt carry I would probable prefer the traditional Model P grip. I can shoot them rather well.

I was turned off by the Thunderer, for what may seem as silly reason: it is modeled after the Colt Lightning, but it is single action. That did not seem right to me.

Of course, the Lightning was prone to breakage. Perhaps there's not way to fit a DA mechanism in that frame shape.

What do you like about that grip vs the Model P?
Both son's have revolvers in Model P type grip..wanted something different and happened upon a Bird'sHead..liked the unique look. Son's Uberti Cattleman is a nice revolver...shoot it often but just liked the uniqueness of the Thunderer.
 
Both son's have revolvers in Model P type grip..wanted something different and happened upon a Bird'sHead..liked the unique look. Son's Uberti Cattleman is a nice revolver...shoot it often but just liked the uniqueness of the Thunderer.
Gotcha.

I sold my SAA decades ago for two reasons:
  • I was worried about someone other than me lowering the hammer on a live round
  • I needed the $150 at the time
If I were still fit enough to get out ofter enough for recreational shooting, I would probably buy a New Vaquero.
 
SA will work for many folks in many situations.
Situational awareness? It lets us know when something must be done. One still has to decides, and act.

That's right, because that's basically repetitious linear functionality training. That's great if you're the type of person who can benefit from it. ...
And yeah, way deeper than your linear answers to train functionally to gain proficiency, but just saying it takes more than that to help you through said situations, that's all.
I don't know what you mean by "linear functionality training", gut the kinds of training to which I referred are not based on repetition, and they are not undertaken for the purpose of gaining proficiency.

They are intended to teach us what to do when faced with a violent emergency. An attack is not the time to try learning that.
 
Gotcha.

I sold my SAA decades ago for two reasons:
  • I was worried about someone other than me lowering the hammer on a live round
  • I needed the $150 at the time
If I were still fit enough to get out ofter enough for recreational shooting, I would probably buy a New Vaquero.
The one son who has a Uberti Cattleman also has a New Vaquero...very nice.

Gotta mention, my Beretta/Uberti Thunderer SAA has a transfer bar..Son’s Cattleman doesn’t.
 
Hardest hitting, yes.

Jack O'Connor recommended them for tigers.

It wasn't mentioned.

There is a lot of stuff on spray in Nonfirearm Weapons. Anatomical differences make spray much more effective on bears than on humans. Remember, they can smell food for up to three miles.

I would rather dissuade a bear than rely upon stopping it.

I carry pepper gel and a pistol--bot not for bears.

One will not walk down the trail with a pistol in hand. it has been years since I saw the video, but as I recall, the shotgun was ready to shoot.

For perspective, an average man can charge at around 5 meters per second. A bear can charge at perhaps 15 or 20 meters per second.

Sure, and my shotgun at home is loaded with brenneke style slugs.

I understand the anatomical differences but I care less about the passive differences and more about the fact that it has literally killed many times using it's bare( or "bear" if you wanna be super punny) claws. Sure spray can dissuade it but you don't have a level after that if it continues to be aggressive. I would never carry only spray even if I did believe in it.

I've seen bear run, I've been charged by them too. In that case I was saved by my dog but sadly a full grown Anatolian Shepherd doesn't really carry well in a shoulder holster.

The end result is basically this : you don't understand my circumstances at all because you haven't lived them. It's not a failing by any means but trying to shoehorn it into your experience is. You mention that you are always learning, this is a situation that you haven't really thought about. We will have to agree to disagree here
 
Sure spray can dissuade it but you don't have a level after that if it continues to be aggressive.

From MountainJournal: " Scientists found that bear spray was 92 percent effective in deterring attacks from the three species of North American bears—brown, black and polar— in Alaska between 1985 and 2006; 98 percent of people carrying bear spray who got into close encounters with bears were uninjured."
Outsideonline.com quotes similar states and lists the handgun success rate at 84%. People with rifles are less apt to come out of it.

Those are the big bears.

I would never carry only spray even if I did believe in it.
I cannot argue with that.

I'd rely on bear sparay, and carry a

Do you really think you can draw and fire a handgun rapidly and effectively enough to stop a charging bear in its tracks?

I worry enough about my being able to stop a human attacker moving at a fraction of the speed of a charging bear.

The Tueller drill is a really tough exercise. It calls for making one hit before the attacker is cutting you. I would not expect one hit to do the trick on a human.
 
Day 325 of the route. I was attacked by homeboys, they screamed at me in a foreign language. I felt fear.

I was able to snap a pic of them....
 

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