Single stack DA compacts w/ hammers: what’s left?

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CZ still makes the Rami I believe.

Yes, it's double stack, but feels thinner to me in the grip compared to the Sig 239 or 225-A1, or the same at worst.

Of course, feel is subjective.
 
I carry mine often. Bought it slightly used years ago, Night sites are still glowing.

The P290RS is currently my only 9mm subcompact. Found it on clearance at Cabela's when they were being stupidly discontinued due to P365 strikeritis.

It has a fairly heavy trigger but it is a "safe" gun to carry.

Agree 100%. I won't carry a "normal" striker gun due to the unsafe nature of their triggers.
 
CZ still makes the Rami I believe.

Yes, it's double stack, but feels thinner to me in the grip compared to the Sig 239 or 225-A1, or the same at worst.

Of course, feel is subjective.

I am a die hard CZ fan, but the Rami is a like a small brick! Only CZ I do not like.Good luck trying to find one and they are expensive
 
Just buy a Glock 43 install a NY #2 spring and it will feel like the heaviest DA only revolver trigger. Very safe, takes two hands to pull the trigger!:rofl:
 
No need to mess with the trigger. Just learn how to handle and carry the gun. :thumbup:
 
We arent talking about cars and driving here. ;)

Ive carried guns of all the major types, and never had an issue with any of them. If you're the least bit reasonable in your gun handling, none of them are a problem. :thumbup:

Its not the guns fault if you cant work it.
 
No need to mess with pesky seatbelts too, just learn how to drive your car better.
If you're relying on the weight of your trigger to keep you safe, you're letting yourself get 4-5 pounds from disaster.

Trigger discipline needs to be absolute with any firearm; heavy triggers (and extraneous safeties on non-SA firearms) are hardware solutions to software problems.

Larry
 
No need to mess with the trigger. Just learn how to handle and carry the gun. :thumbup:

If you're relying on the weight of your trigger to keep you safe, you're letting yourself get 4-5 pounds from disaster.

Trigger discipline needs to be absolute with any firearm; heavy triggers (and extraneous safeties on non-SA firearms) are hardware solutions to software problems.

Larry

I was wondering how long it would be before the “carry a light trigger, it’s a training issue” crowd came out.

You are welcome to your opinions. I will still continue to appreciate being able to keep my thumb on an exposed hammer when reholstering, and not worrying about if my zipper pull or jacket drawstring is about to shoot me in the leg. The term “Glock leg” didn’t appear out of thin air.
 
We arent talking about cars and driving here. ;)

Ive carried guns of all the major types, and never had an issue with any of them. If you're the least bit reasonable in your gun handling, none of them are a problem. :thumbup:

Its not the guns fault if you cant work it.

If you're relying on the weight of your trigger to keep you safe, you're letting yourself get 4-5 pounds from disaster.

Trigger discipline needs to be absolute with any firearm; heavy triggers (and extraneous safeties on non-SA firearms) are hardware solutions to software problems.

Larry

Actually, the seat belt and driving analogy is pretty accurate.

People can enjoy their whole driving career without actually NEEDING their seat belt, similarly to their whole shooting career without suffering a AD/ND. The "I have been doing XXXX since XXXX and have't XXXX" is a common utterance in many risk management discussions.

What we are looking at mitigating is a hopefully once in a lifetime occurrence of your body wanting to launch into the dash or a trigger being inadvertently actuated on a loaded firearm. Obviously, the skill of the operator plays the biggest role in this, but Mr. Murphy does too, whether it’s that completely unsuspected patch of black ice or that hidden jacket cinch that came loose.

A trigger with full weight and full stoke (or a positive manual safety, if you so choose) simply decreases the POTENTIAL of that rare and unforeseen event from causing disaster. Nobody is saying you can disregard trigger discipline because of a “safer” trigger.
 
I was wondering how long it would be before the “carry a light trigger, it’s a training issue” crowd came out.

You are welcome to your opinions. I will still continue to appreciate being able to keep my thumb on an exposed hammer when reholstering, and not worrying about if my zipper pull or jacket drawstring is about to shoot me in the leg. The term “Glock leg” didn’t appear out of thin air.
Yep, I was wondering as well. Didn't take long, did it? I was speaking to this exact sort of thread drift in a thread I started last night in Gen Gun. Seems we always get advice we didn't ask for.

Good luck with your quest to find the type of pistol you're seeking. I do occasionally see lightly used S&W 3913/3914 pistols for sale. But not often -- they're keepers, for sure.

35 posts before the "just buy a Glock and be done with it" comment came! A new THR record!
 
I am a die hard CZ fan, but the Rami is a like a small brick! Only CZ I do not like.Good luck trying to find one and they are expensive

Amusingly before things went crazy this year they had one at each of the LGS I frequent, and both were really motivated to get me to buy them, one was $500 and the other $550 I think.

Haven't been back since but I'm sure they're a lot more pricy now.

Personally, just from shop handling they did seem brick like to me, but I carry a bigger gun daily.
 
Actually, the seat belt and driving analogy is pretty accurate.

People can enjoy their whole driving career without actually NEEDING their seat belt, similarly to their whole shooting career without suffering a AD/ND. The "I have been doing XXXX since XXXX and have't XXXX" is a common utterance in many risk management discussions.

What we are looking at mitigating is a hopefully once in a lifetime occurrence of your body wanting to launch into the dash or a trigger being inadvertently actuated on a loaded firearm. Obviously, the skill of the operator plays the biggest role in this, but Mr. Murphy does too, whether it’s that completely unsuspected patch of black ice or that hidden jacket cinch that came loose.

A trigger with full weight and full stoke (or a positive manual safety, if you so choose) simply decreases the POTENTIAL of that rare and unforeseen event from causing disaster. Nobody is saying you can disregard trigger discipline because of a “safer” trigger.

Not really. Every traffic incident I've been in has not been in my control, other drivers were at fault.

Everything I do with my guns is 100% in my control, yes even zippers and shirts, that's not properly controlling the elements of your carry routine.

It'd be like saying I need a seatbelt because I text and drive and worry about a crash. Sure, that's valid, but just don't text and drive. Still even so other drivers make the analogy sketchy.

Edit: I get wanting to add a margin of error and am not saying that's wrong, I carried a DA/SA for years expressly for that reason, myself. Also, when I SAO carry (which I am currently) I appreciate being able to hook a thumb under the safety as I holster as another safety measure but I can and am confident in also being able to carry a Glock (or insert other striker here) perfectly safely with my routine, which is to holster off the body in the morning, clip it on, and leave the danged thing alone till I'm done with it at night.
 
Not really. Every traffic incident I've been in has not been in my control, other drivers were at fault.

Everything I do with my guns is 100% in my control, yes even zippers and shirts, that's not properly controlling the elements of your carry routine.

It'd be like saying I need a seatbelt because I text and drive and worry about a crash. Sure, that's valid, but just don't text and drive. Still even so other drivers make the analogy sketchy.

There are plenty of single car accidents, even among the highest skilled and experienced drivers, so yes, the analogy works.

No individual is capable of 100% controlling the elements of your carry routine. It's the unforeseen item that we worry about- that ball point pen that slipped through a unknown hole in your jacket pocket lining and down into your holster space.

A heavier and longer stroke trigger can help with mitigating such an event.
 
No individual is capable of 100% controlling the elements of your carry routine. It's the unforeseen item that we worry about- that ball point pen that slipped through a unknown hole in your jacket pocket lining and down into your holster space.

Respectfully disagree. My guns are carried in a single clip kydex that has proper retention. Gun gets holstered off the body then clipped on and remains that way till it goes in the safe at night. If I, for any reason, need to remove my gun during the day, the whole holster goes off the belt and clips back on later.

There is no time in my routine were foreign objects have the opportunity to get inside of my holster, and I only handle it twice a day, and have the capability to focus on being fully safe at that point.

The caviat, of course, is during my weekly shooting, but that's less of a carry routine than a shooting routine and I have other ways to make sure I'm being safe, as anyone should be when handling a loaded weapon.
 
Now that Sig has discontinued the excellent P239 and S&W no longer makes their 3rd generation guns what remains in the single stack compact market that has a DA trigger with a hammer? I’m aware of the Springfield Armory XD-E but the bore axis is like six feet tall and it handles like a brick.

Anything else?


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If the trigger on any of them is a concern, its not the gun or trigger thats the issue, and it really never is, unless of course, youre one of those people who has to modify the trigger to insane lightness levels, to be able to shoot it.

Ive carried SA, DA, DAO, and striker guns, in exactly the same way, and none of them has never been an issue. For me.

I cant say for anyone else, but I do regularly work hard at staying on top of my handling and shooting skills and practice constantly.

This is all about you, and not the gun. If you cant safely carry any one of them, you really shouldn't be carrying any of them. ;)
 
Respectfully disagree. My guns are carried in a single clip kydex that has proper retention. Gun gets holstered off the body then clipped on and remains that way till it goes in the safe at night. If I, for any reason, need to remove my gun during the day, the whole holster goes off the belt and clips back on later.

There is no time in my routine were foreign objects have the opportunity to get inside of my holster, and I only handle it twice a day, and have the capability to focus on being fully safe at that point.

The caviat, of course, is during my weekly shooting, but that's less of a carry routine than a shooting routine and I have other ways to make sure I'm being safe, as anyone should be when handling a loaded weapon.

I agree that rigid kydex belt holster is the "safest" way to carry a striker. The transitional space is still an issue, but minimized. Unfortunately, what we see far too often is the striker platform carried in a soft/pliable pocket or IWB holster from the likes of Uncle Mikes or Blackhawk.
 
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