S&W Model 10-5: Firing Pin Not Protruding Frame

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I'd just order one. The firm I mentioned above has the used part in stock. Maybe the one you have became deformed somehow. I don't think it's worthwhile to try and salvage it.
 
Lack of patience can permanently ruin your gun!

Get the Kuhnhausen manual - http://www.gunbooks.com/sw.html . Read it. Everything you need to know is in there, including how to remove the sideplate without damage, remove/replace the hammer nose, and repair/correct anything else that may be wrong with the gun. But a new hammer nose and rivet from Brownells, gunpartscorp, or one of the other suppliers. Be specific about the part you need. Small changes over the various iterations of a model make some parts not interchangeable between variations. Use the correct tools for the job. There is a correctly shaped punch made just for setting the rivet that holds the hammer nose in place. You can grind one to fit if you cannot find the correct one. Proper fit is not just about appearance. That rivet has thin walls. Using an improperly shaped punch will result in stress risers in the thin metal that can/will eventually result in a crack, letting it fall out at an inoportune time. Use the correct screwdrivers that fit the screw properly, too.
 
If you see no damage to the firing pin and the slot in the hammer that it fits in, clean the slot and polish the sides of the firing pin. Insure that it is free to travel in the slot and reinstall.
 
The "Power Custom" brand N frame hammer nose i ordered from Midwayusa may not be a drop in? Seen 2 posts saying they are longer. More firing pin protrusion. Not good for my M28-2, as it can pierce primers, now & then.


Looks like the old early nose?

May be best to order the part from Smith & Wesson by using the SERIAL NUMBER of the revolver? But like said above, if no damage to the nose, clean and polish , install and try it. The old rivet can be reused, if not damaged.

But the OP's nose looks flattened, not rounded?
 
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....But the OP's nose looks flattened, not rounded?
Ya, I thought the same, looking at the last pic. Maybe the wrong part was installed at some distant time in the past. The point should be rounded so it fits through the firing pin hole.

The part that Numrich lists as "used factory original" and is currently in stock for $17.50 looks to me like it matches:

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The other hammer noses listed have a slot cut out, apparently for those models with a hammer nose spring.
 
Sudden brainstorm: maybe if gobsauce just does some judicious filing on the existing part to round it off it might be made to work? Maybe it's hitting the frame simply because it's not sized to fit through the firing pin hole? Also the other smoothing and polishing at the same time as suggested above can't hurt.
 
I think this Iron was made in 1972? D36XXX is the SN. Anyways, I need to know what hammer was used at this specific time to get the right nose. There are, I believe, 14 different Model 10's. Alternatively, I can do exactly what Wiscoaster suggested, because that's what I believe the issue is. Where would I file though?
 
It's hard to tell; mine looks like it portrudes a little more. Do you want to test fire at a range? Or do you have any spent shells or snap caps you can simulate test fire at home? I like to test a firearm's firing pin action using snap caps. I put a little piece of adhesive paper over the dummy primer then load and "fire" it to see if the firing pin punches a hole in the paper:

Unfired:
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Fired:
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Google- "smith wesson revolver hammer nose protrusion"

Firing pin protrusion: This test will indicate how far the firing pin
protrudes from the firing pin bushing. A short protrusion could result in light
primer hits.
For guns with a hammer nose firing pin, swing the cylinder out and hold
the cylinder latch to the rear. Dry fire in DA mode then hold the trigger to
the rear. Hold the gun muzzle up so you can view the firing pin sticking out
of the bushing. Let go of the cylinder latch then use a .030” gap gauge
placed against the recoil shield. The pin should be at least as high as the gap
gauge.


*Edit/Add- The protrusion of .030" from online now seems wrong? My new M28-2 Hammer nose is about .048" The M28 has pinned barrel and recessed cylinder. *

*Does a recessed cylinder make a difference?*
 
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243winxb, I don't have gap gauge; I'm an electrical engineer by trade. I'm your man for all things electricity. Honestly, I've never even heard of a gap gauge!

Wiscoaster and The Bushmaster, I do not have any .38 spcl ammo, shells nor snapcaps. I guess I'll have to wait till the ammo is back in stock.

I want to take a second to thank everybody who's contributed to this thread. The reason why I'm asking for such meticulous help and details is for one simple reason:
I cannot find help on this anywhere else. It seems I'm one of, if not the, first people to have sought help on this particular subject on the web. I'm trying to get as much as possible for future reference, in hope that this thread may help anyone else who has this issue. So thank you for every letter and image you have shared with me.

I have another issue that's fixed with a little more filing, but that's for another thread. Will work on it tomorrow
 
243winxb, Thank you for sharing! I've heard the gap gauges called "feeler gauges", though I've never used them. Never even seen the wire gauges.

In other news, The filing I did led to the trigger hanging up a little, but that was fixed by rounding off an edge. I'll post my final hammer nose geometry when I get to test it.
 
Carry your revolver to a local gunsmith and let him help you.

Leon
Bit of an issue with that, My city is an epicenter of the current pandemic situation. I would much rather stay at home.

Update: So the hammer nose has always been able to protrude through the frame, it's a matter of shaping it so it works with the hammer. Since I don't own a gap or feller gauge, it's a little hard for me to tell y'all exactly how much it protrudes. That being said, My time in school for engineering has taught me a trick or two. According to S&W, the hammer should protrude somewhere between .04 and .05 inches (if I remember correctly). With this in mind, the hammer nose should protrude to roughly the width of a dime, which it does not. Honestly, I'm at a loss here. I've filed away to no avail, I did my original plan till it protruded and gave it my best shot. I might just buy an entire hammer assembly.
 
If you reload your own ammunition prime a case and see if the revolver will fire the primer without damage to the primer except the pin indention. If it does you are good to go. The people on here are inputting too much into this. The protrusion of the firing pins on all three of my M10 do not protrude any where near the thickness of a dime and they ALL fire anything I feed them. That includes my M19.

Test fire the dang thing and be done with it!
 
The Bushmaster; Bro like, this is the first .38 I've ever owned. Actually, the only American made firearm I own. I reload .45 LC for CAS and nothing more. I've been to all the local outfitters and gun shops this side of the Franklin's and they're all out of ammo! I can't test fire! I'm going off what I can!

Besides, I'm still gonna buy another hammer assembly, I'd like to have one without a hammer spur (just grind it off) for CC.
 
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