Needed: King Cobra (new) Owner's Experience

Mr. Mosin · Nov 19, 2020

As title states. Anybody with a new Python willing to share their experience with me ? Good luck ? Bad luck ? Are they more durable than the originals ?

cfullgraf · Nov 19, 2020

If you have not already done so, check out these threads, they may answer your question.

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/colt-python-2020-vs-original.877683/

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/new-python-owners.877659/

Mr. Mosin · Nov 19, 2020

Read em both, and titled this thread wrong. I meant to ask about the King Cobra

Dframe · Nov 19, 2020

My experience with my king cobra could not be better. It balances well, sights are good, ergonomics are good, and the trigger is superb. In fact with only one informal range session behind me I used it to qualify, which I did with ease.

dfariswheel · Nov 19, 2020

The New King Cobra is not much like the original KC.
The original was a medium framed model in the same line as the original Mark III series, with a cylinder and frame about the same size as the Python.
About all the New and old KC's have in common is that they're both transfer bar ignition/safety designs based on the Mark III series of 1969.

The New KC is made on the same small size frame and cylinder as the old Colt "D" frame models like the Detective Special and Diamondback.
It's basically the same as the New Cobra models.

Most owners really like the new KC, it's accurate, has a nice trigger, and is very good quality.

Mr. Mosin · Nov 19, 2020

dfariswheel said:
The New King Cobra is not much like the original KC.
The original was a medium framed model in the same line as the original Mark III series, with a cylinder and frame about the same size as the Python.
About all the New and old KC's have in common is that they're both transfer bar ignition/safety designs based on the Mark III series of 1969.

The New KC is made on the same small size frame and cylinder as the old Colt "D" frame models like the Detective Special and Diamondback.
It's basically the same as the New Cobra models.

Most owners really like the new KC, it's accurate, has a nice trigger, and is very good quality.

So it's a bit smaller than a S&W "K" frame ?

shoebox1.1 · Nov 19, 2020

I had two visits back to colt for misfires. About a month stay each visit. Finally fixed after the second visit and I couldn’t be happier. Great trigger. Decent weight. Accurate. Great looks. Fit and finish excellent. I love it

JCooperfan1911 · Nov 20, 2020

They are better in every way. The CNC machines are able to reproduce the old quality parts but at a fraction of the cost. The new python is getting rave reviews as well.

Old Dog · Nov 20, 2020

I am quite happy with mine; this is only the second handgun I've bought new in years that exceeded my expectations (the first was the SIG P-226 Legion). The trigger is, in a word, phenomenal. In DA, it's incredibly smooth; in SA virtually no take-up or slack, just a light, crisp clean break. It's solid, excellent fit and finish and has displayed terrific accuracy. Lock-up incredibly tight. I always felt like the 3" barrel was the sweet spot for a concealed carry .357. Brass bead front sight kind of old-school cool. Leather courtesy of George Bowers Leather. And yes, I suspect this will prove to be a much more durable revolver than the older Colts.

Kleanbore · Nov 20, 2020

Old Dog said:
I am quite happy with mine; this is only the second handgun I've bought new in years that exceeded my expectations (the first was the SIG P-226 Legion). The trigger is, in a word, phenomenal. In DA, it's incredibly smooth; in SA virtually no take-up or slack, just a light, crisp clean break. It's solid, excellent fit and finish and has displayed terrific accuracy. Lock-up incredibly tight. I always felt like the 3" barrel was the sweet spot for a concealed carry .357. Brass bead front sight kind of old-school cool. Leather courtesy of George Bowers Leather. And yes, I suspect this will prove to be a much more durable revolver than the older Colts.
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Old Dog's recommendation would lead me to buy one of these sight unseen, if I could find one.

I don't really need it, but it would replace a Model 60 3".

Mr. Mosin · Nov 20, 2020

Old Dog said:
I am quite happy with mine; this is only the second handgun I've bought new in years that exceeded my expectations (the first was the SIG P-226 Legion). The trigger is, in a word, phenomenal. In DA, it's incredibly smooth; in SA virtually no take-up or slack, just a light, crisp clean break. It's solid, excellent fit and finish and has displayed terrific accuracy. Lock-up incredibly tight. I always felt like the 3" barrel was the sweet spot for a concealed carry .357. Brass bead front sight kind of old-school cool. Leather courtesy of George Bowers Leather. And yes, I suspect this will prove to be a much more durable revolver than the older Colts.
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How does it compare in size to S&W ? Bit smaller than a K frame, isn't it ?

Huntolive · Nov 20, 2020

Wait are you talking about the python or the king cobra aren't those two completely different revolvers?

Mr. Mosin · Nov 20, 2020

Huntolive said:
Wait are you talking about the python or the king cobra aren't those two completely different revolvers?

King Cobra. My idiot phone autocorrected the title, and I didn't catch it until after I posted it and came back to check on it.

brutus51 · Nov 21, 2020

shoebox1.1 said:
I had two visits back to colt for misfires. About a month stay each visit.

Same here, my Cobra target was having misfires and is suffering from tight chambers, been back to the mother ship for 3 weeks now,
Called last Friday and was told it had been worked on and sent for testing, that's the last I've heard.
No problems with my 38 Special and I really like it.

Kleanbore · Nov 21, 2020

dfariswheel said:
The New KC is made on the same small size frame and cylinder as the old Colt "D" frame models like the Detective Special and Diamondback.
It's basically the same as the New Cobra models.

Not exactly.

Thicker top strap.

brutus51 · Nov 21, 2020

Kleanbore said:
Not exactly.

Please elaborate.

Kleanbore · Nov 21, 2020

brutus51 said:
Please elaborate

The top strap on the new King Cobra is thicker than the one oft the Cobra.

shoebox1.1 · Nov 21, 2020

brutus51 said:
Same here, my Cobra target was having misfires and is suffering from tight chambers, been back to the mother ship for 3 weeks now,
Called last Friday and was told it had been worked on and sent for testing, that's the last I've heard.
No problems with my 38 Special and I really like it.

It was very frustrating to have to send it in twice and tested my paitence! BUT in the end it all worked out and I would still recommend a Colt. I think they rushed the release of the snake guns.

Old Dog · Nov 21, 2020

Mr. Mosin said:
How does it compare in size to S&W ? Bit smaller than a K frame, isn't it ?

Well, not really -- I didn't realize how close they were in size until I put a couple side-by-side (my 3" Model 13 -- probably the closest S&W in comparison -- is on loan to a brother), the KC actually appears more robust (topstrap) than the Model 19.

Saddened a little to hear that some of our brothers here have had issues with the new Colts -- but my experiences (3 so far, and waiting for my Python) have been very positive.

dfariswheel · Nov 22, 2020

The New Cobra (and New King Cobra) are actually the same size frame and cylinder as the older Colt "D" frames like the Detective Special and Diamondback, only with the frame beefed up in critical areas.

These models are "about" the same size as the S&W "K" frame, and the Colt and S&W cylinders are so close, the same speed loaders can be used in both.
Probably the closest approximation to the New Colt's would be a S&W 2 or 2 1/2 inch "K" frame like the Model 10, 19, or 66.
The frames will be very close, the cylinders the same diameter.

Mr. Mosin · Nov 22, 2020

dfariswheel said:
The New Cobra (and New King Cobra) are actually the same size frame and cylinder as the older Colt "D" frames like the Detective Special and Diamondback, only with the frame beefed up in critical areas.

These models are "about" the same size as the S&W "K" frame, and the Colt and S&W cylinders are so close, the same speed loaders can be used in both.
Probably the closest approximation to the New Colt's would be a S&W 2 or 2 1/2 inch "K" frame like the Model 10, 19, or 66.
The frames will be very close, the cylinders the same diameter.

These new Cobra's and King Cobra's use the Trooper Mk III lockwork, correct ? More robust than any Python lockwork ?

Kleanbore · Nov 23, 2020

Mr. Mosin said:
These new Cobra's and King Cobra's use the Trooper Mk III lockwork, correct ? More robust than any Python lockwork ?

No, and no.

Mr. Mosin · Nov 23, 2020

Kleanbore said:
No, and no.

Ok then. Correct me, please.

Kleanbore · Nov 23, 2020

Mr. Mosin said:
Ok then. Correct me, please.

I thought I had done so.

The new Cobras do not contain Trooper Mk. III internals, and there is no reason to think them more robust than the new Python.

Nacho Man · Nov 23, 2020

Old Dog said:
Well, not really -- I didn't realize how close they were in size until I put a couple side-by-side (my 3" Model 13 -- probably the closest S&W in comparison -- is on loan to a brother), the KC actually appears more robust (topstrap) than the Model 19.

Saddened a little to hear that some of our brothers here have had issues with the new Colts -- but my experiences (3 so far, and waiting for my Python) have been very positive.
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Is that a set of Ahrends Cocobolo combat grips I see on the M19? Look very familiar for some reason. I have a set of his retro target stocks on my 586

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