Burger Sword Canes

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Anyone have any experience with Burger Sword Canes?

https://www.swordcane.com/stilletto.htm

I'm not really looking to buy, I just was wondering though. Not a fan of them charging well over $1000 for a 440C blade. I know you are paying for other details but it seems a little higher quality steel would be nice. Though I suppose it's meant to be a weapon, not a cutting tool. 440C seems to take a decent edge and would certainly save your life, but in my experience it doesn't hold an edge terribly well. Probably a moot point in this context.
 
I would never suggest a sword cane for anything other than a wall hanger, or for martial arts practice. If you want it for one of those reasons, a classic Zatoichi would work well.

John
 
I would never suggest a sword cane for anything other than a wall hanger, or for martial arts practice. If you want it for one of those reasons, a classic Zatoichi would work well.

Honestly I just think they would make an interesting, though mostly impractical heirloom. I have better uses for my money. They are just interesting to me. I'm pretty happy with my shillelaghs and pocket knives.

John
I'm with John, plus totally outlawed by statute in Virginia.
Yeah, after looking at my state's laws, this would constitute a concealed knife as it were, and while would be legal in many places where I live, it would be a bad legal idea in some cities in my state that have length restrictions. I have knives of different sizes for that reason. This just isn't needed.

Kind of neat though.
 
Sword canes are illegal in every state I believe. If it is not every state it is darn close. I would suggest careful research before deciding to own or carry one.
 
Fred Burger makes one of the best sword canes out there. The quality of his workmanship is superb and he is a member of the knife maker's guild of South Africa and walks away with the prizes in this category year after year.
I have had the privilege of visiting his shop in South Africa a couple of times.
His son Trevor makes the most outstanding folders as well and I have a few of them.
https://tbcknives.com/
 
Anyone have any experience with Burger Sword Canes?

Yes. They're exquisite, as you'd expect from a hand made sword cane. Absolutely tight, no rattle, smooth operation, perfectly balanced, and finely finished. A thing of beauty.

a moot point in this context

I think your answer came to you as you were typing your concerns. Remember, at one time 440C was near the top of what was available for rust resistant blade steels. Properly heat treated it is still a perfectly good blade steel (I would not feel unsafe with any of my Entrec 440C knives) and it finishes
 
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Sword canes are illegal in every state I believe.

Back several years ago that might have been correct, but no longer. Knife Rights has done away with much of those restrictions. Check your individual state laws.

I would suggest careful research before deciding to own or carry one.

Carry, yes, but I wouldn't hesitate to own one as part of a collection.
 
I find appeal in many designs.



Yes. They're exquisite, as you'd expect from a hand made sword cane. Absolutely tight, no rattle, smooth operation, perfectly balanced, and finely finished. A thing of beauty.



I think your answer came to you as you were typing your concerns. Remember, at one time 440C was near the top of what was available for rust resistant blade steels. Properly heat treated it is still a perfectly good blade steel (I would not feel unsafe with any of my Entrec 440C knives) and it finishes
Yes I did. I have several 440C blades. They cut. And as a defensive weapon it would work fine. It’s not like you pop out a cane sword or dagger for every day tasks. Intended use is a big consideration of course.
 
I have a Burger Sword Cane. The craftsmanship is, indeed, exquisite. As for the blade material, well, I am not going to test mine, to destruction, but I keep in mind that a sword cane blade is not meant to do anything, other than make a hole, and that knife steel, and sword steel, are two different animals. Plus, it is not just the steel’s formula, but how is is heat-treated, that can be most important.

In Texas, thanks to the changes in the Penal Code, a few years ago, blades over 5.5” are now generally legal, but “location-restricted.” This list of restricted places is not oppressively lengthy. The concealment aspect has never mattered, one way or the other, regarding blades.
 
I have a Burger Sword Cane. The craftsmanship is, indeed, exquisite. As for the blade material, well, I am not going to test mine, to destruction, but I keep in mind that a sword cane blade is not meant to do anything, other than make a hole.
Exactly.

I may buy one some day. I like to carry a stick As I age and stick more to pavement, I could see carrying one.
 
Given the profile of a sword cane blade, I would imagine that edge retention is not super high on the priority list for picking the blade steel. Most have slender blades of necessity and are thrusting weapons primarily with limited cutting ability. Burger cane swords really are beautiful, though.
 
Too many guns out there, we've all seen the sword scene in Indiana Jones.



Movies make for poor references.

OTOH, I have personally "beat" an experienced LEO who was prepared for me to draw and attack. Movies are fun, but experience is more valuable.
 
Firearms aren't in such widespread use because they're more effective:
firearms are the most popular because of
1) range;
2) ease of training.
 
Movies make for poor references.

OTOH, I have personally "beat" an experienced LEO who was prepared for me to draw and attack. Movies are fun, but experience is more valuable.
Part of our training was to never treat a knife lightly. The academy ran a demonstration about how fast a person with a knife could be on you.

My thing was to draw an imaginary line and a person with a knife didn’t drop it when commanded, if he or she came inside that line, they were going to be shot. Thankfully, it never came to that, but close one time.
 
When we ran everyone sworn through the Tueller drill (basic distance to threat, facing an opponent with a sharp instrument when your sidearm is in your holster....). More than one officer was jerked up short when they learned the hard way that you'd never clear leather before that blade was on you.... The simple lesson? To stay safe, facing an opponent with an edged weapon - you absolutely need to keep your distance and be prepared to use your sidearm if charged...

Like most I enjoy movies... that scene in the Indiana Jones movie would have an entirely different ending if the guy with the blade was a whole lot closer when our hero reached for his sidearm.... Very different outcome. In fact the only ones in our training classes that were able to clear and respond with a firearm BEFORE that blade was in striking range were fit officers that must have watched a lot of football since the way they "survived" the training scenario was to scramble backwards in high gear to keep enough distance between them and the guy with the butcher knife to be able to draw and fire. They looked like they were trying out for defensive end on someone's team - that's how fast they had to scramble while backing up and keeping their eyes on the threat...

I've viewed several live action videos of blade assaults on officers on the street over the years. Allow someone with a knife close enough and it was a bad outcome for the officer every time (the assailant was in fact shot and killed - but the officer needed a lightning ride to the nearest emergency room as well..). Not a good outcome in any sense of the word...
 
Now where in the world did I say I wasn’t planning to carry a gun also?

When I go for a walk now a days I usually have a gun, a folding knife, and a blackthorn stick with me.
 
I found the Caliber Press 'Surviving Edged Weapons' video on YouTube; TM must have lapsed?

If you'll ever confront a person with a knife, I sincerely feel this will help you survive.

Larry
 
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