Can you carry a full size pistol IWB?

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Fiv3r, I think you might have just summed up why some of us carry full size, high capacity guns; because we can!:D

I have had back problems in the past but I’m lucky because a full size gun doesn’t get painful or uncomfortable until late at night. And that’s usually after a 2 hour supper/graze fest.
 
I have appendix carried a beretta 92, a 1911, and both 4 and 6” K, L, and N frame revolvers. The only thing to consider for IWB carry in any location on the body is what you will do when your not standing. Driving for example is harder with larger guns as they either dig into your belly if you carry front side, hurt your butt and lower back if you sit on top of them for any time, and really feel weird if you are doing extremes of twisting and bending (golf).
 
At 5'10", 240lb I am a fairly large person. Duluth Firehose Flex pants can be your friend. I can easily carry a full size 1911, CZ75, or lately a Springfield XDM 5.25 Competition, IWB. No gun or OWB, no problem, still same size pants. I have found that carrying full size IWB or OWB, a good set of suspenders helps greatly. Also keep the weight as even as you can by carrying a couple of magazines on opposite the side.
 
Can you carry a fullsize gun iwb?
Absolutely.

Will it require a quality holster and belt?
If you want the endeavor to be remotely comfortable: yes.

I am more and more carrying a fullsize AIWB with a spare mag without too much trouble.

It's very doable
 
There are those among us that are well nourished other wise known as fat. That's when certain methods of carry become problematic.
 
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I carried a Glock 17L with a TLR-1 for years IWB with no problems. I was 5’8” and #290 then, now I’m #180 and can still carry it just as easily. I’m using a holster from “concealedconcept” on eBay and a super bio belt. Occasionally I’ll carry a Glock 17 with the same light, or a Springfield Range Officer 5” 9mm with the same ease and same brand holster.
 
Hi guys. I have a CZ-P10F full size pistol that I use in IDPA matches. If I decide to carry with this gun, should I only consider OWB due to the gun size? Or is it possible to carry IWB for a full size gun like this and not be totally uncomfortable?

You can carry a full sized pistol comfortably IWB but sitting down, especially in a car and bucking up ends the comfort quickly. Or just bending over to tie the shoes.
 
You can carry a full sized pistol comfortably IWB but sitting down, especially in a car and bucking up ends the comfort quickly. Or just bending over to tie the shoes.

Exactly - and well stated. Another reason I can’t ever do IWB. I’m 5’8” and about 160lbs. and don’t stand on my feet all day. I once around and get in and out of the truck during the day, sit down at the office, have bend over quite a bit during the day.
 
You can carry a full sized pistol comfortably IWB but sitting down, especially in a car and bucking up ends the comfort quickly. Or just bending over to tie the shoes.

I actually find the opposite, I'm very used to IWB and can perform any of my daily routine just fine. Driving, cleaning, vehicle maintainence yard work, chasing my kids round and playing various sports, blocks, what not, watching TV, etc. Sure, there are some days when I can't wait to get my holster off at night, usually when it's hot but it doesn't happen too often.

I used to swap to OWB when doing things like yardwork but have found he different rub spots are more uncomfortable, so I just leave the same holster on all the time.

5'8" 220 or so, still husky but my waist is back down to a 34 (without gun, 36 with) and am about as strong as I have been since highschool, 5 days a week workout hasn't dropped the weight, but it has helped.

I carry IWB at bout 1-130 in a single clip kydex, but I do slide it to around 2-3 if I've got a long car trip planned.
 
Hi guys. I have a CZ-P10F full size pistol that I use in IDPA matches. If I decide to carry with this gun, should I only consider OWB due to the gun size? Or is it possible to carry IWB for a full size gun like this and not be totally uncomfortable?
It's simple -- get or make a pancake holster. Then punch two holes, one on either side of the muzzle, near the toe of the holster. Make 2 reverse J-hooks of Kydex -- The heaviest Kydex you can find.

To make a reverse-J hook, cut a strip about 6" long and about 1" wide. Drill a hole near one end. Heat the other end and bend the tip (say 1/4") into a J. Then heat the strip a bit further down, a little more than the width of your belt, and bend it again.

Attach your reverse-J hooks to the holster with Chicago screws (post screws). Now slide the holster into your pants, with the tip of the reverse-J hooks on the outside. They will glide over your belt and snap into place. Your holster is now firmly attached, and you will find it quite comfortable.

An added benefit is that you can tuck your shirt into your waistband -- there is a space between the holster and the reverse-J hooks. "Blouse" your shirt (pull out a couple of inches and let it hang naturally) and your M1911 will disappear!
 
I have a Canik subcompact. I love the gun but tbh even though it’s compact I wish it was thinner and lighter. Haven’t found an IWB placement that is comfortable. So i would personally never want a full size IWB carry.
 
I usually need pants that are 2 sizes larger to do so, then i gained 20lbs. Now cant even fit the DS -IWB unless i buy new pants. OWB for me
 
I usually need pants that are 2 sizes larger to do so, then i gained 20lbs. Now cant even fit the DS -IWB unless i buy new pants. OWB for me
You really shouldnt and its actually counterproductive when you do. Go up just one size, and it looks like the pants dont fit, two would really look off.

I wear the proper size pants and its not a problem at all. May feel a bit snug when you first slide the gun and holster in, but the fabric and your body soon give, and things settle in and feel fine. The big plus is, things feel more secure and there is a lot less movement of the gun/holster.
 
You really shouldnt and its actually counterproductive when you do. Go up just one size, and it looks like the pants dont fit, two would really look off.

I wear the proper size pants and its not a problem at all. May feel a bit snug when you first slide the gun and holster in, but the fabric and your body soon give, and things settle in and feel fine. The big plus is, things feel more secure and there is a lot less movement of the gun/holster.
Not when youre a big guy, trust me. :)
 
Hey, Ive been there. Ive done it skinny to fat and back again. Fats got nothing to do with it. :)
 
Hey, Ive been there. Ive done it skinny to fat and back again. Fats got nothing to do with it. :)
So me jumping 2 sizes from a 50-52 isnt the same as someone smaller jumping from a 25 to 26? I believe it is the exact same difference, relative the the fit of the pants. That how circumference works. We can leave it alone from here, Mr.AK103K
 
Most all the men's sizes go 2"=1 size. I mean you can order 33" or 35" waist, but to go to the store and buy, you're gonna get 34's or 36's in most cases.
 
All Im saying is (I dont want to get yelled at again:p), I find the gun carries much better when you wear your normal size pants, no matter what that may be. And the pants look proportional and proper, unless youre going for the oversize look.

You also dont have to buy different size pants if you switch up a lot. If you take the gun out, and decide to wear your gun OWB, youre still good to go. If youre not wearing a gun, your pants still fit too.

And thats all from experience and over about a 10" difference in waist size, all carried IWB.
 
OWB buys you two things.
1. You won't need different sized pants. If you carry a compact, slim gun in a good holster, you can probably get by with your current pants and maybe only change the notch you use on your belt. But a full-sized gun, is going to take up a good bit of room in your pants. Unless you wear your clothes pretty baggy, you may need to buy some larger pants.
2. Comfort. A good holster makes a big difference, but I've never worn a holster that was as comfortable against me as a pair of pants is. Having the pants between you and most of the gun/holster combo helps a lot with comfort.

IWB buys you ease of concealment.
1. Your cover garment can be a lot shorter. Your cover garment needs to come down 6" below the bottom of your gun/holster rig to insure concealment when bending/sitting/stretching. With a full-sized gun carried OWB, you're talking something that is closer to a short dress than a long shirt.
2. The pants sort of smooth the outline of the part of the holster/gun combo that is inside the waistband meaning that really only the top of the gun/holster have to be concealed. That's higher on the body and it doesn't stick out as much. The grip will still sort of poke out, but at least the bulk of the gun is pretty well hidden.

I'll a few add items, but keep in mind, there are a lot of very experienced guys on here with differing opinions....which ever you go with, give your choice plenty of time in training before giving up...it'll save you accumulating a lot of unused holsters not to mention $$$.
1. OWB will also keep the bulk of your body sweat off the gun. Many of my short guns are old blued steel and wood which don't take kindly to sweat over an all-day carry session.
2. Too, the gun/holster when worn inside the pants/belt wears the fabric more than an OWB holster/gun combination. Ask any LEO in plain clothes about the wear patterns on his clothes.
3. Comfort is a big item for all-day carry, as John pointed out...not comfortable, eventually leads to 'I don't want to carry'...in my case, and maybe yours as well.
4. As to bbl. length/gun size...I rarely change out guns when headed for town and routinely carry up to 4" bbl'd Smith M19/66 K frames. It's the holster that matters with guns this size....ones that ride high enough to allow reasonable concealment and still don't hinder your draw/presentation movement. An Askins Avenger as produced by Bianchi, El Paso Saddlery, et al; makes a good rig for both revolver and auto. And it'll pull that grip back into your side minimizing 'printing'.
5. Lastly, a good OWB holster allows you to get and maintain a firing grip on the gun BEFORE it comes out of the leather & without allowing the muzzle to cover any of your essential anatomy. This equates to 'no fumbling' for a better hold as the gun clears the holster, during the draw. While training helps with an IWB in this regard, (and one of my sons carries IWB habitually), it was a frustrating time of it when I tried the system for over a year. When he and I practice CC use here on our farm, every time I watch him re-holster, it gives me the willies...that muzzle is awfully close to much of his anatomy. And AIWB is whole different level of worry.

I went back to the OWB with sheer delight...and dress around the gun. A shirt tail or jacket/suit coat is more than enough cover. John suggests 6" is necessary to hide a gun when sitting or reaching...I don't have that problem but I carry in holsters of my own make and adjust the amount of 'drop' for each gun; two to three inches below the belt is easy to hide. YMMv and Best regards, Rod
 
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