Mixed Headstamps & NATO in Winchester White Box 9mm

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I got a box of Win White box with a new 9mm pistol I just bought and found some real oddities. I'm starting to load 9mm, so I wanted to take some COAL measurements on the Win WB ammo. I was shocked to see Starline brass mixed in, and even some WMA with NATO stamp and crimped primers. What gives? This is a good store, no reason to think it's anything other than the real stuff.
 

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no reason to think it's anything other than the real stuff.

Lots of reasons to think it's everything but the real stuff.
I see mixed headstamps, including ones that AFAIK Winchester never touches, marked primers, de-crimped surplus brass, and wear on rims.
It's one thing if that was a freebie "we had lying around with it," with a used pistol but 1) never trust anyone else's reloads and, 2) if they promised you it was new, leave a review including that picture and never go back.
Because after the review I'd leave, I'd never be welcome back.
 
Well if it was a free box its kinda hard to get upset. If it wasn't then may be ask whats up. I know my local store always has resold traded in ammo
 
What is the head stamp that looks like some strange alphabet? I found one the other day in my range pick ups.
 
i dont think the cases in the picture are crimped anymore, if they are reloads they were probably crimped from the original use of the case, but that isnt going away when you reload it you just swage or reform the pocket.
 
One would think Winchester would not be real happy having reloads put in one of their boxes and sold as new ammo.
If the store won't refund your money I would give Winchester a call and mention that XYZ store is selling reloads in their boxes as new ammo and I would file a claim with the BBB..

Most of us would check the headstamps but I'm sure there are people out there who might not thinking it's a box of new Winchester ammo and just shoot it. (which could turn out bad depending on the reloads)
 
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Thanks for all the feedback, I going at this two ways: 1) Write to the approriate manufacturer contact with pictures, receipt, and explanation, and 2) Visit the store manager with pictures and questions.
The cost is not so important as the safety issue, and legal implications of retail stores selling reloads as new ammo. It's not good for our community if some reloader is doing this.
Looking at the WMA NATO stamp brass, I concur with jimmyvegas29, it is used brass with swaged out crimp. The White Box was nice new and crisp looking.
 
Thanks for all the feedback, I going at this two ways: 1) Write to the approriate manufacturer contact with pictures, receipt, and explanation, and 2) Visit the store manager with pictures and questions.
The cost is not so important as the safety issue, and legal implications of retail stores selling reloads as new ammo. It's not good for our community if some reloader is doing this.
Looking at the WMA NATO stamp brass, I concur with jimmyvegas29, it is used brass with swaged out crimp. The White Box was nice new and crisp looking.

I guess this isnt how you imagined you get into "reloading" :rofl:
 
Thanks for all the feedback, I going at this two ways: 1) Write to the approriate manufacturer contact with pictures, receipt, and explanation, and 2) Visit the store manager with pictures and questions.
I wouldn't bother Winchester, this wasn't their fault.
It's 100% the shop.


The White Box was nice new and crisp looking.
As are the majority of empty boxes in the trash can at virtually every gun range in America. When I reloaded that where I would get brand new boxes, styrofoam or plastic trays and the little CCI plastic boxes that I would reuse to make bulk pack .22 more orderly.
 
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