.44 Russian -why not

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Im a 44 mag guy, but 44 mag brass is sold out where id like to buy it. 44 special is also of interest. Its also sold out.
.44 Russian is available, and inexpensive.
It apprears like you can get close enough to 44 special performance out of it, and 44 special is a darn good and accurate target load.
Is it worth it, or are there problems with it?
It reminds me of a 45 ACP with a rim. In my opinion 44 special is similar in performance to 45 ACP so in a way this might be able to be loaded about the same. (Using published data of course)
Ideas?
 
The .44 Special was loaded 'down' so as not to over stress revolvers chambered for .44 Russian that might (and did) allow .44 Special to be chambered. Which seems a loss for the .44 Special round.

However, to the question: Unless you load without regard to good sense, you are not going to hurt yourself or any decently made .44 Magnum revolver. I load my old .44 Special Hand Ejector (with 44 Spl cases) with 250 grain bullets and just under .45 ACP hardball velocities. Makes sense to me.
 
I shoot Fiocci 44 Russian in my Charter Arms Boomer. Shoots well, was cheaper than 44SP when I got it.
 
The .44 Special was loaded 'down' so as not to over stress revolvers chambered for .44 Russian that might (and did) allow .44 Special to be chambered. Which seems a loss for the .44 Special round.

However, to the question: Unless you load without regard to good sense, you are not going to hurt yourself or any decently made .44 Magnum revolver. I load my old .44 Special Hand Ejector (with 44 Spl cases) with 250 grain bullets and just under .45 ACP hardball velocities. Makes sense to me.
Are you sure it’s not just one way interchangeable like 38 and 357.
What guns chambered for .44 Russian can shoot 44 special with its longer case?
 
If your goal is to load it closer to max power .44 Special, you can and should load .44 Russian hotter than published data, so long as you're shooting it from a .44 Mag. The long jumps in revolver cylinders allow gas to blow by and while it's not for a very long travel, it's there. This is an issue I'm running into with .45 ACP in my Redhawk, I'll load a few tenths of a grain over max data that Hodgdon says should get almost 900 fps from a 5" barrel and I'm getting over 100 fps less. Yeah, part of that is it's a 4.2" barrel and a revolver w/ a cylinder gap, but the other part of that is the longer jump.

FortuneCookie45LC did videos a few years ago on Youtube where he trimmed some .45 Cowboy brass to fit in a .45 ACP cylinder of a 7.5" Blackhawk and he loaded them hot and got 1200 fps w/ a 200 grain bullet. Gun didn't blow up, imagine that.

Now, I can't speak to the longevity of the brass, I know that Starline stands by their .45 Colt brass is built to handle .44 Mag pressures, so their .45 Cowboy Special (trimmed .45 Colt with a different headstamp) is also capable, but IDK if their .44 Russian can handle 35k PSI levels, but I doubt you're looking to load them that hot.
 
Are you sure it’s not just one way interchangeable like 38 and 357.
What guns chambered for .44 Russian can shoot 44 special with its longer case?
Initially, that was the plan. To 'invent' a longer case (that alone started a trend) so the .44 Special, obviously seen as an improvement and upgrade in ballistics; that's my conclusion based on how minds of humans work.
However, the revolvers chambered for .44 Russian had 'sloppy' cylinder tolerances. The prior .44 cartridges (.44 S&W Center Fire No. 3 Revolver and .44 American) were outside lubricated, and like the current .22 long rifle, had the same diameter bullet as case. A plurality of those guns were top break, and the allowed pressures were less than .44 Special (odd as that seems today). But any number of users operated on the concept, 'If it fits, it shoots'. (Too many still do.)
 
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