Carcano carbine

Mr. Zorg said:

My foggy memory says mine had a square button on the underside by the magazine well I had to push for the empty en-bloc clip to fall out. Maybe that button was inside the trigger area?

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There's a button inside the trigger guard that ejects a loaded clip out the top of the receiver under spring force only when the clip is loaded. It has no effect on an empty clip falling out the bottom.

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You guys are killing me.. not letting that clip fall is like buying a Sports car and not going over 35... .. Poor Salvatore Carcano is looking down saying "You want to do what to my creation.. You breaka my heart"

Now all levity aside, You could go the M95/24 route and fill in the bottom hole, build in an internal permanent magazine clip.. And just feed it from the top..

When I purchased my Carcano TS from Classic a few months back I immediately ordered 200 rounds of PPU for $189.99. So I don't know where @JCooperfan1911 is getting $4/round. Maybe now by the private resellers. Once this huge demand surge from the china virus and election cycle riots is behind us I anticipate seeing the same price for the PPU. I won't need any of it as 200 rounds is more than enough for my use, with the brass I'll be able to shoot and reload for the amount of shooting time it will see for my lifetime and my kids.

Ummm. duct tape your wife's mesh delicates bag to the rifle to catch the dropped clip?

Shoot over an old blanket so the clips drop on something safe and soft.

I have ONE (1) clip just in case I ever get a Carcano... and four rounds of ancient surplus ammo... just in case....

Why do I pick up this crap?

Hello, my handle is -kBob, and I am a gunaholic.

Could a strap-on AR-15 brass catcher be adapated to catching the clip?

The only trick that I've found that consistently works is the thumbtack trick,
The head or heads of the thumbtacks add a friction point that allows the clip to drop half-way out so that you can catch it.
If you don't want to catch it this time, just push in another, loaded, clip and the old one will fall out.
Very simple and easily reversed - although it will leave a pin hole or two in the mag well... .

Edit - information is for the 3-shot Berthier - not the Carcano,

Wow, this thread is news to me.

I have about 5 Moschetto's IIRC, and the maximum I paid for one was $75. Probably in the late '00's. At the time they were going for less money than a Russian 91/30, and IMHO they are much better guns.

One element to be aware of when buying is that they were produced in a number of different factories, to varying degrees of fit & finish. I've found that the ones made during wartime to be much more rough than those made when Italy was at peace. Their bores vary in diameter, and some shoot very well, and some shoot terribly.

desidog said:

.... and some shoot very well, and some shoot terribly.

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...and you really want to avoid the carbines rearsenalled from long rifles, since the last and most effective part of the gain twist rifling is lost, and why those are the ones that shoot the worst.

cluttonfred said:

As far as I can tell, the cavalry carbines were not made from cut down long rifles, just the TS carbines, is that right?

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Sorry, don't know for sure. All I know for sure is that if a Carcano is something/24 it's a cut-down long rifle.

According to my references, the calvary carbines were produced in two patterns: the 1891 pattern and the 1938 pattern, and both were carbine-purposed productions, not repurposed long-rifle productions. The 1938 pattern should have a fixed rear sight.

cluttonfred said:

And would it be marked "/24" or is that just collector's terminology?

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No, that's the Italian terminology, but I'm not familiar with what receiver marks you'd see as it was produced over a period of years. The official designation is "Moschetto Modello 91/24"

I concur. And an interesting stock, for sure.

The modifications made to the butt stock of one of my Carcanos were not quite so professionally done:
View media item 3306I figure some Ethiopian who captured the gun wanted a different sling mount. A couple pieces of metal and a couple nails were just the ticket.

wiscoaster said:

I concur. And an interesting stock, for sure.

The modifications made to the butt stock of one of my Carcanos were not quite so professionally done:
View media item 3306I figure some Ethiopian who captured the gun wanted a different sling mount. A couple pieces of metal and a couple nails were just the ticket.

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Wow that is the most unique rifle ring and attachment I have ever seen.. My bet is someone heavily sanded that stock. Is the D-ring Wrought iron???

One of the greatest Carcano websites below..

Awesome photos.. details of some rare weapons.. IE
The Tromboncino Model 28..



But it is in Italian, the translate works but is very temperamental at times.

Also the section on the kids rifles and toys is unreal.

http://www.il91.it/il91.html

Viddy Well Oh my Brothers.

indy1919a4 said:

.... My bet is someone heavily sanded that stock. ...

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It was already sanded and I sanded it some more since its collectible value was already zero. At this point it's a fully functional but rather ugly "shooter" but unfortunately chambered in 7.35mm which PPU dropped from their production list. So, these days it's pretty much just an example of what you get for a Royal Tiger Ethiopian import rifle. And worth a few laughs.

-Oops.
My thumbtack trick was for the 1915 and earlier 3-shot Berthier.

Brain glitch.

I just discovered that Steinel still lists 7.35mm as a Carcano caliber they produce. Naturally, they're out of stock (also of 6.5mm), but they do take backorders, which most ammo retailers don't. Of interest to Carcano shooters is that they also produce the bottle-nose bullet rounds.

https://www.steinelammo.com/

I’ve heard of folks putting a piece of tape over the bottom of the mag hole to retain the clip. I wonder if you could use tied fabric or something else that wouldn’t potentially affect the finish.

The en bloc system makes a lot of sense in a military context but it does make it a bit more difficult for enthusiasts and recreational shooters a century later. We can’t just call up battalion HQ and get a couple fresh crates of ammo on clips. Given their scarcity it does make sense to take care of them.

Or Just get 4 clips for 50 dollars and shoot them..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-I...746918?hash=item2f503ea9e6:g:55wAAOSwR8dfa8Hj

I can put my hand on the bible and tell you I have shot brass clips and reused them at least 25 times.. That is a full drop from the gun on to the ground and pick up. Maybe a dust blow off.. They still work and in excellent condition.

You are not going to break these unless you stomp on them..

One other thought.. 5 years ago, one had trouble giving alot of these Carcanos away at shows. But because of the vagaries of collecting, the Influx of Ethiopian Carcanos from Royal Tiger. Now there are lots more Carcano interest.. How long before someone starts making new batches of reproduction clips..???