Beretta 92

I have a Taurus Model 99 that I bought brand-new in 1989. It still functions perfectly. It has a frame-mounted safety and adjustable sights, which are both improvements on the original, IMHO.

I also have a Beretta 96 (40 caliber). It's also a good shooter. It is a "Frankenstein gun" made from a DAO slide and a "normal" frame. Thus the slide-mounted safety is eliminated.

md7 said:

Cut my teeth on Glocks. Own many, and carry one daily. Always thought the Beretta 92 was classic looking, and appreciated it's history.

Found a NIB Italian made 92 FS, and brought it home. It’s as flawless a firearm as I’ve ever seen, slide racks smooth as silk, and feels great in the hand.

Fired 200 rounds through it with no problem.

There’s one negative and one area I’m going to have to work on. The negative is the slide mounted safety. Installing a G conversion is a must for me.

The area I need practice is the double action pull. It’s just very different than what I’m used to. No sweat. Will dry fire, practice, and dry fire and practice till it gets easier.

In conclusion, it’s really growing on me. Look forward to getting in more trigger time, buying more mags, and purchasing a spare 92 in the future.

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I own four Beretta 92's (Italian 92FS, US made 92FS, M9 and a surplus 92s) each one has a Wilson Combat 14lb hammer spring. That will drop your DA trigger pull from ~11lbs to ~7.5lbs with 100% reliable ignition of all types of ammo including Russian steel case.

I've had three 92's, going back to the first ones with the "normal" mag release. I always had to end up selling them when money got tight. The last one had been worked on and had a great DA trigger, very smooth and light. I never had any problem with it, and was very sorry to see if go back in 2014 I have a Taurus PT-99, and it's a decent gun, and I do like the frame mounted safety more than the slide one, but it's just not the same. I wanted an SS one, but a friend had a black one he was selling at a good price so I bit on it. Shoots fine, but the DA trigger is nothing like on that last 92FS.

Tallball said:

I have a Taurus Model 99 that I bought brand-new in 1989. It still functions perfectly. It has a frame-mounted safety and adjustable sights, which are both improvements on the original, IMHO.

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The original Beretta had a frame mounted safety.

Taurus doesn’t come up with stuff on their own often and when they do it’s generally pretty terrible.

bc1023 said:

They are iconic pistols for sure.


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I like everything you have there. I didn’t know that they ever made a stainless pistol with frame safety and button mag release. I might have to have one. It’s essentially the same as my Taurus PT99 that I like for all the reasons that your pistol screams to me. The blued pistol is sweet too, what comp is that? I looked at comps a few years back and backed off based on price.

WestKentucky said:

I like everything you have there. I didn’t know that they ever made a stainless pistol with frame safety and button mag release. I might have to have one. It’s essentially the same as my Taurus PT99 that I like for all the reasons that your pistol screams to me. The blued pistol is sweet too, what comp is that? I looked at comps a few years back and backed off based on price.

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None of those are stainless. It’s a nickel Teflon finish of sorts on carbon steel.

The one with the extended barrel is a 92 Combat, but pretty difficult to find.

Ohen Cepel said:

Also, some food for thought. They are one of the few metal, hammered fired pistols still being made for those of us who like that sort of thing.

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That would be me, especially in the classic da/sa configuration.

AK103K said:

Mmmmm, why wouldnt you just use the decocker?

The advantage to the DA trigger on things like the 92's, they are very easy to repetitively dry fire, and practice with. Next best thing to a DA revolver for getting your muscle tone up to where it needs to be and your brain wired for a DA/DAO trigger.

Not sure why you would bother thumb cocking something like a 92 either. They arent meant to be shot like that.

Ive never had any of the trigger "transition" issues you often hear about, with any of my guns with that type of action. Just focus on the front sight and shoot, everything will be fine.

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OF COURSE YOU USE THE DECOCKER! My point is the OP can't de-cock that glock, when it even has ONE bullet in it, now can he?

Dibbs said:

OF COURSE YOU USE THE DECOCKER! My point is the OP can't de-cock that glock, when it even has ONE bullet in it, now can he?

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Why would you want to decock a Glock?

Not that its even actually cocked.

AK103K said:

Not that its even actually cocked.

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It is.

JTQ said:

It is.

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No, it's not.

I currently own 2 92 series pistols.

One is a surplus 92s. Old school Italian pistol with beautiful bluing and machining. Completely a range pistol for me. It shoots well. I put a D spring in it and it shoots great. It is a little big in the hand but and a range pistol its a shooter. I am pretty sure it was an unissued gun.





The next is a super slick LTT Compact. This is simply one of the best DA/SA guns I have ever owned. I have P228s, P01s, a CGW CZ75, a CGW Shadow 2 etc.... This thing is stunning. Feels great in the hand. Super smooth DA pull at about 6lb 10 Ozs SA is about 4lb 6 Ozs but it doesn't feel that heavy. The number one improvement in this pistol vs a standard 92 is the trigger reset because of the LTT trigger bar. If you know who to run a DA/SA gun with a hard trigger prep this thing is amazing.

I got to carry a relatively new M9 while I was in the military. It did grow on me a little and I would like to own one that I wouldn't have to turn in some day. We weren't allowed to switch it to decocker only model, so most just carried safety off on double action. Only thing I didn't like about it as a whole was it was too heavy to comfortably carry on flimsy uniform web belts.

WVSig, your compact is the model I saw in stainless, and wish I'd snagged it. Nice looking pistol.
The complaint with the slide-mounted safety was inadvertently applying it while charging the pistol. If you simply make sure it is off, shouldn't be an issue.
Personally, that SA/DA transition scares me to death. A local cop, in a good shoot, popped a perp twice, when I'm fairly sure he only wanted to do it once. About the time the shooting starts, I'd be back on the now-light SA trigger, letting rounds get away. But that's just my take, YMMV.
Moon

halfmoonclip said:

Personally, that SA/DA transition scares me to death. A local cop, in a good shoot, popped a perp twice, when I'm fairly sure he only wanted to do it once. About the time the shooting starts, I'd be back on the now-light SA trigger, letting rounds get away. But that's just my take, YMMV.
Moon

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It's trigger travel not trigger weight that keeps you safe. The DA/SA guns usually have more trigger trigger travel.

Watch that Langdon video at post #17

JTQ, I'm an old revo guy, and understand about long trigger strokes. Never been on a two-way range, and hope to keep it that way. But if I am ever scared enough of something that I'd point a gun at it, simple is better.
Personally, I'm more comfortable with triggers that are the same all the time, be it strikers or DAO revolvers...just don't like to mix the two on the same gun.
Like I said, that's just my take.
Moon

I ran my 92FS completely stock for 20 years. First mod was the reduced D spring and it was... nice. As I began really "running" the pistol, as opposed to just target shooting, I realized what a liability the safety was. One G conversion later and I'm... real happy!

AK103K said:

Why would you want to decock a Glock?

Not that its even actually cocked.

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Maybe , technically, it's not cocked, but it sure seems that way, every time one goes off, in somebody's pants.
Which, of course, leads to the answer, of "Why would you want to de-cock a glock?" Obviously, so it doesn't go off, in your pants.

md7 said:

Good point, and don’t disagree. For me a G conversion simplifies things, and removes the possibility of the safety being inadvertently engaged.

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I think the difference between the F and the G version is a little plunger and spring in the slide safety. Once the spring and the plunger are removed, the pistol is converted from F to G. Not 100% sure but this is what I remember.

When the slide is racked, the Glock striker is partially cocked and the gun is ready to fire.

I carried in the .mil; 1911 and M9. Both excellent weapons. I now own; 1911s, a Wilson customized M-9 and the new M-17. I did have Wilson do the G conversion.

Dibbs said:

Maybe , technically, it's not cocked, but it sure seems that way, every time one goes off, in somebody's pants.
Which, of course, leads to the answer, of "Why would you want to de-cock a glock?" Obviously, so it doesn't go off, in your pants.

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Perpetuating misinformation doesnt help here. It went off in his pants because he was grabbing for it and pulled the trigger. Not because the gun was unsafe.

Just like that dancing FBI guys gun didnt go off when he dropped it, but when he was panic grabbing for the gun and pulled the trigger, it did go off.

That same result could very well happen with a lot of other guns. The lesson there is, let the gun drop and dont panic grab at it. And that goes for any of them.

And with anything, its usually not the guns fault when something goes wrong. Maybe if people would bother to learn to properly handle the guns they choose to handle, there would be less of the scary stuff.



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5-SHOTS said:

I think the difference between the F and the G version is a little plunger and spring in the slide safety. Once the spring and the plunger are removed, the pistol is converted from F to G. Not 100% sure but this is what I remember.

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This is what comes in most conversion kits I can find. Not a bad deal for under $50.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1019282643

A friend had a Taurus PT92, but I didn't care for it. The huge grip felt awesome, and the Al frame means the gun feels lighter than you think, but I couldn't get over the trigger.

SA was like "pull...pull...pull...keep pulling...BANG!" Super long and all slack; no stacking and no break till right at the very end. DA was long and heavy, but at least you could feel the hammer cocking and could tell that something was about to happen.

I couldn't shoot either mode worth a darn in the box of 9s I ran through it, because I never got the hang of the trigger. Didn't walk away with any particular desire to either. It's a gun that I came in wanting to like, but throwing shots left, right, and center with it really left me cold.

Glocks are kind of the opposite for me; they never stop feeling a little awkward and unnatural, but I stick with my G17 because I shoot it well.