Oh look....another 6.5. This time by vortex.

BreechFace · Dec 16, 2020

Yawn...but if others are excited that's cool.

IF I were to get into the 6.5 game it would be the PRC. But I'm completely satisfied with the performance I have with the guns in my stable that overlap with many of the 6.5's.

Now a good 6mm for some distance target shooting as well as some yote hunting would be pique my interest, and there are already a lot of good options, just hard to pick one.

Random 8 · Dec 16, 2020

Watched the reloading video...painfully...with lots of skips forward. This is what happens when you have more money and time than good sense. A pile of new gear and little real world knowledge of how to use it. Sounds like they are taking an abundance of caution into the approach, but for cryin' out loud, start with some boilerplate .223s or .30-06 before diving into a brand new wildcat cartridge!

Nature Boy · Dec 16, 2020

jbmillard said:
I wonder if they are doing this because they want complete control over the round for something optics related. In the middle of 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.6-300 Weatherby is the 6.5 PRC so it doesn't really seem to be filling any holes.

and the 26 Nosler

Riomouse911 · Dec 16, 2020

WestKentucky said:
Well, next logical cartridge will be the 6.5 evinrude. I’m waiting for the flashy 6.5 Samsung though, but I suspect that the 6.5 Serta will be softer shooting.

Followed by the BMG based, ultra-long action 6.5x99 Nytol to put us all to sleep.

Stay safe

Offfhand · Dec 16, 2020

Someone should tell the folks at Vortex, or whoever, that they came too late for the 6.5 Wildcat party. I had this 6.5 Leopard built nearly 20 years ago, when it was being raved about by the 1000 Yd. benchrest crowd. Basically, it's the .3000 WSM necked down to 6.5 but I use .270 WSM brass because its easier to neck down. The wire is attached to a strain gauge over the chamber for measuring pressures. It's a wicked round at 1K.

LoonWulf · Dec 16, 2020

mcb said:
Case volume, max pressure, twist rate etc? I did not see that in the one article I found.

Havent seen anything listed. They may not have actually measures capacity, the videos showed them starting at about 55gr of 4831 and clocking 2700s

Riomouse911 said:
Followed by the BMG based, ultra-long action 6.5x99 Nytol to put us all to sleep.

Stay safe

Id call that Nodoz......

Gordon · Dec 16, 2020

js8588 said:
Yeah, the only "problem" with the 264 mag is the twist rate is too slow to adequately take advantage of the higher bc bullets available in 6.5.

The twist rate is not reall a cartridge problem tho, it is a rifle barrel problem. A 1-7.5" .264 Winchester rifle barrel would be a wonderful thing with any 6.5 mm bullet on the horizon.

troy fairweather · Dec 16, 2020

So does it have to go back for replacement every 2nd or 3rd use like the scopes.

I have to do some more looking but it looks like a decent round, tho for my I don't think I need a 6.5 with anymore powder then the 6.5saum or wsm.

Gordon · Dec 16, 2020

Offfhand said:
Someone should tell the folks at Vortex, or whoever, that they came too late for the 6.5 Wildcat party. I had this 6.5 Leopard built nearly 20 years ago, when it was being raved about by the 1000 Yd. benchrest crowd. Basically, it's the .3000 WSM necked down to 6.5 but I use .270 WSM brass because its easier to neck down. The wires in pic are attached to a strain gauge used for measuring pressures. It's a wicked round at 1K.View attachment 963094 View attachment 963095 View attachment 963096

Once again WOW just wow !
I remember gluing Oehler (I think) strain gauges on wildcats 15 years ago I gave mine to my son and doubt he uses it anymore . That is one terriffic and ahead of it's time wildcat !.

Captcurt · Dec 16, 2020

Gordon said:
The .264 Winchester is a wonderful round since 1959 ! That is exactly where it fits !

Yep. The try to invent something that is already there.

earlthegoat2 · Dec 16, 2020

To make it a real winner there needs to be factory rifles chambered in it and a strong (at least initially) supply of factory ammo.

That’s why Hornady can muscle through any cartridge they want. Apparently Ruger and Savage (among others) are properly incentivized build a bunch of rifles and Hornady has an ammo plant......

CapnMac · Dec 16, 2020

George P said:
6.5x284

Had to double-take on that--284mm = 11.18" [

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Something tells me that, even with a 12" bolt throw, there would still be an argument over cock on open versus cock on close [

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js8588 · Dec 16, 2020

troy fairweather said:
So does it have to go back for replacement every 2nd or 3rd use like the scopes.

I have to do some more looking but it looks like a decent round, tho for my I don't think I need a 6.5 with anymore powder then the 6.5saum or wsm.

Thank you. I feel the same way about Vortex as I do about Sig USA.

stillquietvoice · Dec 16, 2020

WestKentucky said:
Well, next logical cartridge will be the 6.5 evinrude. I’m waiting for the flashy 6.5 Samsung though, but I suspect that the 6.5 Serta will be softer shooting.

That's too funny

Walkalong · Dec 16, 2020

Offfhand said:
It's a wicked round at 1K.

I bet, bet it's rough on barrels as well, but for hunting, who cares.

horsemen61 · Dec 16, 2020

Offfhand said:
Someone should tell the folks at Vortex, or whoever, that they came too late for the 6.5 Wildcat party. I had this 6.5 Leopard built nearly 20 years ago, when it was being raved about by the 1000 Yd. benchrest crowd. Basically, it's the .3000 WSM necked down to 6.5 but I use .270 WSM brass because its easier to neck down. The wire is attached to a strain gauge over the chamber for measuring pressures. It's a wicked round at 1K.View attachment 963094 View attachment 963095 View attachment 963096

details of that Rifle please!!!

Dudedog · Dec 18, 2020

Well, next logical cartridge will be the 6.5 evinrude. I’m waiting for the flashy 6.5 Samsung though, but I suspect that the 6.5 Serta will be softer shooting.

No, the 6.5 Trojan is the winner

js8588 · Dec 18, 2020

Dudedog said:
No, the 6.5 Trojan is the winner

Tries to convince everyone it's a magnum, really it just offers very average performance & leaves you disappointed you pulled the trigger.

mokin · Dec 18, 2020

I think these last couple posts sum things up nicely.

troy fairweather · Dec 18, 2020

js8588 said:
Tries to convince everyone it's a magnum, really it just offers very average performance & leaves you disappointed you pulled the trigger.

You just said word for word the 6.5 creedmoor definition in the Webster dictionary lol.

blue32 · Dec 18, 2020

Its been done with 30 cals ad nauseum. Now its being done with the 26. At this point I think a 6.5 rimfire would sell east of the Mississippi.

mokin · Dec 18, 2020

blue32 said:
Its been done with 30 cals ad nauseum. Now its being done with the 26. At this point I think a 6.5 rimfire would sell east of the Mississippi.

How about the 25 Stevens? It's been out of circulation for awhile. Maybe folks will think it's new again.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.25_Stevens

It's not really a 6.5, but it's close.

Offfhand · Dec 20, 2020

horsemen61 said:
details of that Rifle please!!!

Nothing all that special or unusual except the 6.5 Leopard chamber. Built on Rem M-700 action with HS stock and Douglas barrel for testing loads, velocity and pressure. Here it is with similar No. 2 rifle built for actual 1000 yd competitions with 28" Kreiger barrel and Zeiss Diavari-V 6-24X56 scope.

Oh look....another 6.5. This time by vortex.

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