Ah heck, just bought myself a new rifle..

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Gonna put my leatherwood malcolm 6X scope on it.

Should be sweeeet!

The auction company didn't have a ton of info on it. A navy arms .58 they rate as MINT.
So anyone who recognizes it and can fill me in with exactly what it is, and what it's called, that would be great.
I think it's a zouave ? ( im sure I didn't spell that right...) Maybe 1863 pattern?

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Or is it a copy of a Enfield Musketoon?
Or a 1858 Enfield?
(Looks to long to be a musketoon.)

After looking around, I think it's a Enfield 2 band Pattern 1858 Naval Rifle?
 
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Just bought one that came with a round ball mold and the front sniper sight. I plan to use it for round ball.

Anyone replace the military rear sight?
 
I would shoot it a bunch first to see if its worth the effort. Had 2 of these and none were target accurate with ball or minie. Used one in the rendezvous clay pigeon team shoot with un patched balls for rapid reloads. Was ok but guys with musketoons and carbines did much better. FWIW rapid fire team shoots can be unsettling for those who have experienced real combat.
 
vintovka said:
I would shoot it a bunch first to see if its worth the effort. Had 2 of these and none were target accurate with ball or minie. Used one in the rendezvous clay pigeon team shoot with un patched balls for rapid reloads. Was ok but guys with musketoons and carbines did much better. FWIW rapid fire team shoots can be unsettling for those who have experienced real combat.
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The seller indicated that he had good success with PRB and 70 to 80 grains of Olde Eynesford 2F. Sounds like a decent deer load to me. I might order some minies from track of the wolf in a couple sizes and see if it will shoot them with a 60 grain service load. If it doesn't break my shoulder and I can get accuracy from them, 510 grains will certainly break a deer.
 
Just looked up the date code.
It was made the year I went into the Corps,1971.:)

Nice shape for a rife that old. Though 50 years isn't all THAT old for a muzzle loader. ;)
 
brewer12345 said:
The seller indicated that he had good success with PRB and 70 to 80 grains of Olde Eynesford 2F. Sounds like a decent deer load to me. I might order some minies from track of the wolf in a couple sizes and see if it will shoot them with a 60 grain service load. If it doesn't break my shoulder and I can get accuracy from them, 510 grains will certainly break a deer.
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Get your minies from CWBulletman. Pat has a subsection on the Lodgewood web page. He’s a fellow N-SSA competitor and a great guy to deal with.

https://www.lodgewood.com/Bullets_c_7.html
 
Brutuskend said:
Nice shape for a rife that old. Though 50 years isn't all THAT old for a muzzle loader. ;)
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I'm surprised to see that MMP still makes a .58 sabot for use with .451 - 452 bullets. --->>> https://mmpsabots.com/store/58-grey-sabot50-pcs/
You never know when you might find a good deal on some bullets and how they will shoot.
They would probably be easier on the shoulder too while producing some extra velocity.
 
If you do get to shoot it, you will not be disappointed. This was shot from the bench with a Lee cast conical and SPG lube, 18 shots in a ragged hole. Only thing peculiar to these old iron designs is the tendency to shoot conicals high with the issue sights.

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