CZ Omega vs Non-Omega

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What is the difference between the Omega and non-Omega variants of CZ pistols? My understanding is that the Omega has a simpler trigger system.

However, what I am having a difficult time discerning are the pros/cons associated with the Omega and non-Omega variants. Which do you prefer and why?
 
The Omega can be switched from decocker to safety or vise versa. They say the Omega is easier to work on, but I don't think the non-omegas are hard to work on.
 
I have both styles.
The Omega trigger is easier to work on. You can swap out the safety for decocker, the decocker works in the opposite direction of the traditional 75 trigger. IMO the actual trigger shoe is better, its flat with a slight curve, the 75 style can have a fairly curved trigger shoe, all my 75s get the 85C trigger. Out of the box the Omega is considered a better trigger. Omegas will also come with better sights.

The 75 trigger is harder to work on, but once you take one apart its pretty easy even the decocker models. The 75s are far more responsive to trigger jobs then Omega triggers. A 75 with trigger parts/work done from CGW is a thing of beauty, they will ruin you!! A 75 can be turned into a SAO trigger, an Omega can not.

To me it boils down to one thing, are you gonna ticker with the gun? If you wanna get a P01 for a carry piece and want no part of trigger mods get the Omega version. You want a P01 that can rival most 1911 triggers in SA get the 75 and Cajunize it. For me the best system would be the 75 with an Omega trigger shoe.
 
The Omega has fewer parts, is easier to disassemble and was generally less expensive. Cons are a lot of pre-travel and a long reset. Generally, Omegas triggers can’t be tuned as highly as say a Shadow II. But that doesn’t mean that Omega triggers are In anyway inferior. In fact, most shooters are quite happy with them.
If your goal is the best out-of-the-box trigger I suggest a Shadow II SAO.
 
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The omega is a single transfer bar, I think the original is a dual (1911 style).
The practical difference is the original trigger sometimes has horrendous trigger slap, enough that I won't shoot one. The Omega is significantly better. Many don't notice, but those that do hate the original.
The Omega DA pull is extremely heavy and long, to the point of useless... BUT it does smooth out considerably after a few hundred rounds of normal use. Mine going from around 30lb down to about 8lb. The SA trigger is long but very light.
The trigger is physically sharp on the Omega, but it can be sanded down. The best reason to get it is if your like me and never liked the CZ trigger slap. Mine has a safety.

oh yea, the reset is ridiculously long. You can get used to it, but its strange at first.
 
I appreciate the input. So if I buy a P-01 and want to Cajunize it (and I have been thinking about doing so before starting this thread), do you recommend the Omega or non-Omega? Additionally, what package do you recommend from CGW?
 
As my previous post said, if you want to trick it out get the non Omega trigger. A tricked out Omega trigger just is not in the same league, its nice but not the same.
Id go with the PRO package. Without looking at the site, I believe the difference is that the PRO package has the reach reduction parts and the standard package does not.
Either one is a fine choice and the P01 is a dam fine pistol. Also keep in mind as I said before, the sights are different and the decockers work in opposite directions.
My EDC is a PCR with a PRO package and CZ custom sights.
 
Most Omegas I have seen have ambidextrous safety/decocker. Most other Cz's are one sided. Might matter if you are left handed.

I missed the boat on CZ 85 back in the day but am quite happy with a CZ 75B Omega.

Mine has a few rounds downrange and a lot of dry fire practice with a snap cap. It is pretty smooth. The trigger never felt gritty to me. Not sure what trigger pull is but for double action 8 pounds sounds about right.

My preference is for the Omega platform and I would like to add the CGW pro package to mine. That lightens the trigger and I believe shortens trigger reset as well. To @sevt_chevelle's point I am not the guy who wants/needs to tune to the nth degree so there you go.

Then again as smooth, reliable and accurate as mine has been it really doesn't need much.
 
I have a P01 with the pre-Omega trigger system and a P07 with the Omega trigger. Out of the box the P07 has a much nicer trigger on it than the P01 and I like that you can switch out the decocker for a thumb safety.
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giggitygiggity said:
I appreciate the input. So if I buy a P-01 and want to Cajunize it (and I have been thinking about doing so before starting this thread), do you recommend the Omega or non-Omega? Additionally, what package do you recommend from CGW?
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A few words on CZ triggers: what makes all the difference in the world is springs. @mjsdwash spoke of trigger slap and I'll echo that. My box-stock 75B is painful after 30-40 trigger pulls, even in dry fire.

You want a short reset, about 3.5 pound single action and 8.5 pound double action. This is the same trigger that's in Item #91765 from CZ Custom, and it is worth the extra bucks. No trigger slap at all.
 
sevt_chevelle said:
I have both styles.
The Omega trigger is easier to work on. You can swap out the safety for decocker, the decocker works in the opposite direction of the traditional 75 trigger. IMO the actual trigger shoe is better, its flat with a slight curve, the 75 style can have a fairly curved trigger shoe, all my 75s get the 85C trigger. Out of the box the Omega is considered a better trigger. Omegas will also come with better sights.

The 75 trigger is harder to work on, but once you take one apart its pretty easy even the decocker models. The 75s are far more responsive to trigger jobs then Omega triggers. A 75 with trigger parts/work done from CGW is a thing of beauty, they will ruin you!! A 75 can be turned into a SAO trigger, an Omega can not.

To me it boils down to one thing, are you gonna ticker with the gun? If you wanna get a P01 for a carry piece and want no part of trigger mods get the Omega version. You want a P01 that can rival most 1911 triggers in SA get the 75 and Cajunize it. For me the best system would be the 75 with an Omega trigger shoe.
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Thanks for the good advice. I own a CZ 75 BD, a P 01 and a CZ 85. Sent off for the M-Carbo Trigger Trigger Kit w/ forged trigger pin. hopefully, I'll be able to place all the springs in the decocker unit properly!
I'll start with this kit in the 75 BD first, and see how she runs. Then I'll upgrade the P01. Whether I stick w/ M-Carbo or go to CGW will depend on my results! Thanks again!
 
I had an SP01 Phantom that had serious trigger slap. CGW recommended that 85C trigger and swapping that in fixed the issue.

My P01 trigger is just fine. I don't want to change it. I got some Night Fision sights and CZ custom slim grips for it and have been carrying it lately.
 
I bought one of the first Omega CZ75 B's and sent it off to CGW several years ago. He figured out how to optimize it then. As far as I know, I was one of the guinea pigs. The trigger is fantastic and I can only assume he's further tweaked his work.
 
valnar said:
I bought one of the first Omega CZ75 B's and sent it off to CGW several years ago. He figured out how to optimize it then. As far as I know, I was one of the guinea pigs. The trigger is fantastic and I can only assume he's further tweaked his work.
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It's my understanding that lag time for trigger work from CGWs is 8 - 10 weeks. Ugh! Hence my sending off for the Trigger Kit and watching videos to hopefully complete the job myself! Wish me luck!
 
Just take your time and you should be fine. I've done Sigs, Tanfoglios, CZ's, S&W 3rd Gen, Beretta 92's all from videos. Watch them over and over, and having two devices running so you can freeze and watch the same segment helps a lot for some reason. Good luck!
 
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