I Should Work for NASA!!!!!!**&$@@#

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Tommygunn

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I own a Uberti made Winchester 1873 saddlering carbine. Just before Christmas I had the BRILLIANT idea of trying to get a dust cover that fit a little .... "prettier." Well, that did not end well. So I'm back to putting things together again as they were before I was beset with the stoopidz.

Trouble is this; this cover slides back and forth over the ejection port and there's a small ball bearing and spring under it for friction, so it doesn't slide by itself.

In replacing it, I have "launched" the original parts.:uhoh: I then launched the fabricated second replacement parts.:confused:

So ....I ordered a proper replacement parts from VTI GUNPARTS.

That arrived over the weekend.

Guess what? You DON'T get a prize for the correct answer.

Yea .... the replacement set .... achieved orbital insertion around Epsilon Eridani VI a few minutes ago.

:mad:


Does ANYONE have any tricks to keeping the spring/ball bearing down while sliding cover over it.

THREE new replacements are now ordered.


[/end gunsmithing career]:what:


*Sigh.*
 
I don't fully understand what you're trying to do, but that said, a common technique for this sort of thing is to assemble the parts inside a clear plastic bag (or other clear plastic cover) so that when the spring-loaded parts are launched, they at least are easier to find. (Maybe a dry cleaner bag?) I wish I had known about this before I sent an AR15 ejector somewhere into my garage.

Tim
 
Patience and an assistant has been my go to when dealing with small parts with springs involved. Don’t worry we all look four different directions following the sound of escaping parts only to discover our ears and eyes deceived us and the parts were not where we thought we heard them land. Try finding some literature specific to what you’re doing or videos. Good luck
 
Tommygunn said:
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I own a Uberti made Winchester 1873 saddlering carbine. Just before Christmas I had the BRILLIANT idea of trying to get a dust cover that fit a little .... "prettier." Well, that did not end well. So I'm back to putting things together again as they were before I was beset with the stoopidz.

Trouble is this; this cover slides back and forth over the ejection port and there's a small ball bearing and spring under it for friction, so it doesn't slide by itself.

In replacing it, I have "launched" the original parts.:uhoh: I then launched the fabricated second replacement parts.:confused:

So ....I ordered a proper replacement parts from VTI GUNPARTS.

That arrived over the weekend.

Guess what? You DON'T get a prize for the correct answer.

Yea .... the replacement set .... achieved orbital insertion around Epsilon Eridani VI a few minutes ago.

:mad:


Does ANYONE have any tricks to keeping the spring/ball bearing down while sliding cover over it.

THREE new replacements are now ordered.


[/end gunsmithing career]:what:


*Sigh.*
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You can't work for NASA - you took initiative and tried to do something right. Now if you had taken five years, done it with poor requirements, designed a dust cover that could ONLY be used on your rifle, then upgraded the carbine to make the first dustcover design obsolete and then said it can't be done without more funding, you'd fit right in. [Note that I worked for NASA contractors for ~15 years].
 
I had a hard time replacing a safety detent on a P938, had to keep the detent pressed down with a thin pocket scale and rotate the safety over the detent , pushing the scale out of the way as it rotated. 2020 hindsight, could have used a thinner (.010”) feeler gage in place of the scale. Did work in a large plastic bag as it took several tries to not launch the detent and spring.
 
Oh, I understand what you are going through. Had quite some fun myself with a spring in a Browning Buckmark .22 LR rifle a few years ago. The instruction booklet warned the reader not to disassemble any further and see a competent gunsmith... I should have complied: had to use eyelash tweezers in my mouth as a third hand and to empty my patience tank to get it back in place. I eventually sold that rifle afterwards.

Thanks for the transparent bag trick folks, I will try to remembered that one.
 
At least you’re increasing the odds of finding some of the launched parts :) Seriously though good luck getting her back together. I have an 1873 Miroku Winchester rifle and I love it.
 
Thank you all for your suggestions & responses. I have taken the liberty of ordering THREE sets ( :D ) of new parts from VTI. But, in the meantime, I took a small spring from my spring pack and cut it down to half size, stretched it a bit, and tried inserting it without the ball bearing to see if it will work that way, even if it wasn't totally satisfactory. Interestingly it seems to work almost as well as with the bearing. Continued use might eventually cause problems but I think I'll deal with that if/when it happens. The new VTI parts can certainly wait in my GREAT BIN FULL OF MYSTERY GUN PARTS for some future need. o_O:oops:
 
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At least you’re increasing the odds of finding some of the launched parts :) Seriously though good luck getting her back together. I have an 1873 Miroku Winchester rifle and I love it.
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Very funny. :p

I have a Miroku 1873 Long rifle. Miroku does make excellent rifles. But WHAT EVER you do, don't EVER take off that dust cover!!!!! I don't think Miroku has the same bb/spring doohickey mechanism Uberti does, but it isn't worth the headache to find out! ;):confused:
 
Of course, this begs the question, why did Uberti change from the original design? My 1889 '73 constrains the movement of the dust cover with a simple little piece of bent spring steel maintaining friction on the underside of the cover. It still works well after 132 years.

While in my possession, no parts have ever attempted escape.
 
Anyone who has assembled an AR can relate. These days I dread spring loaded projects as my fingers are getting stiffer and my eyesight worse. Especially since my motorcycle accident in August. I broke my left hand and bruised my skull which affects my eyesight. Plus arthritis. Not just AR's. Various projects motorcycle and gun mean I have also contributed to the detent and spring cloud also. Now that I think about it a few screws circlips nuts and bolts from my old Jeep and other vehicles must be in outer space someplace too.
 
I have done similar. Most recently with a Charter Arms revolver. Those little detents fly so far and so fast that they exit the home without even leaving a hole in the wall. I jokingly suggested to my wife that I get a small greenhouse for the crawl space to do my gunsmithing in. Her response was that within a years time it would pay for itself in avoiding replacement parts.
 
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