Century R1A1 FAL Gas and feeding issues

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When I discovered dust cover was likely the cause of my 3 point jam feeding issue, I also had action opened by itself when firing. I could not finish a mag without a 3 point jam. Before it was a great shooter. I have/had 5 FALs/L1A1s and this one is the one I keep! When I came home, I remembered I replaced the dust cover with a new nice looking one just before. Checked the cover and it looked flush at the base, I took the cover off and hand cycle the action, every round chambered fine. I figured maybe the top edge caused the interference, ground it off a bit, took it back to the range and went thru 2 or 3 mags just fine. You can check if dust cover caused your problem by removing the cover and hand cycle with dummy rounds. If still jammed, cover likely not it, take a picture of the jam. There are many knowledgeable folks on this board can give you good suggestions.
As to your barrel time issue. Looks like under timed which means likely when they built the rifle they could not time any further. I had one Century like that, I bought it cheap then I knew why! I thought I could just time the barrel while I had the tools, wrong! It was totally stuck, I could not break the barrel with a 4 ft pipe on the barrel wrench and probably applied 200+ ft-lbs but it won't move. I applied heat, soaked with Kroil nothing worked. I gave up and used an end mill to deepen the sight adjustment screw hole to allow more adjustment, sold it a few years later. That was the only issue and I told the buyer, he was happy at the price while the sight off to one side is cosmetic.
Check the piston diameter also, unlikely cause, but check.

I have a pic of the jam here. I removed the dust cover and this is what happened. If I slingshot it by hand it will chamber, but it's not getting enough gas I don't think to chamber another round from the mag on its own.
So basically, if the barrel is undertimed, as mine is, then I need a new receiver? Would I be able to get a red dot or something to get more adjustment?
 

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When I discovered dust cover was likely the cause of my 3 point jam feeding issue, I also had action opened by itself when firing. I could not finish a mag without a 3 point jam. Before it was a great shooter. I have/had 5 FALs/L1A1s and this one is the one I keep! When I came home, I remembered I replaced the dust cover with a new nice looking one just before. Checked the cover and it looked flush at the base, I took the cover off and hand cycle the action, every round chambered fine. I figured maybe the top edge caused the interference, ground it off a bit, took it back to the range and went thru 2 or 3 mags just fine. You can check if dust cover caused your problem by removing the cover and hand cycle with dummy rounds. If still jammed, cover likely not it, take a picture of the jam. There are many knowledgeable folks on this board can give you good suggestions.
As to your barrel time issue. Looks like under timed which means likely when they built the rifle they could not time any further. I had one Century like that, I bought it cheap then I knew why! I thought I could just time the barrel while I had the tools, wrong! It was totally stuck, I could not break the barrel with a 4 ft pipe on the barrel wrench and probably applied 200+ ft-lbs but it won't move. I applied heat, soaked with Kroil nothing worked. I gave up and used an end mill to deepen the sight adjustment screw hole to allow more adjustment, sold it a few years later. That was the only issue and I told the buyer, he was happy at the price while the sight off to one side is cosmetic.
Check the piston diameter also, unlikely cause, but check.

Took some more pics of some dremmeling that I did and after the dremmel and polish it looks like it's the bad mag that won't let it feed. You can see in the picture that nothing in the feed ramp is keeping the bolt from closing. I measured piston diameter, it is .430. I read somewhere that that is standard. Could be wrong gas plug.
 

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I have a pic of the jam here. I removed the dust cover and this is what happened. If I slingshot it by hand it will chamber, but it's not getting enough gas I don't think to chamber another round from the mag on its own.
So basically, if the barrel is undertimed, as mine is, then I need a new receiver? Would I be able to get a red dot or something to get more adjustment?
No, you don't need a new receiver if you can remove the barrel. Once barrel is removed, you can remove some metal at the barrel shoulder to allow it to be timed further. I used a 60 grit grinder disk, open the hole to barrel diameter to sand/grind the shoulder a bit to allow the barrel to hand timed to 10:30 - 11:00, then torqued. I used 2-rod method to time the barrel. Yes, you can always buy a railed receiver cover and use scope or red dot.
As to the feeding issue, it may just because of gas. When the gun does not have enough gas, it does not have enough force to drive the bolt/bolt carrier back with speed and full cycle to bounce back with energy to chamber next round. That may explain why you can slingshot to chamber a round but not in firing. Fix your gas issue first. Also check if your mag feed lips have sharp edges/burrs, polish the feed lips.
 
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Did you just dremil into the chamber?
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Did you just dremil into the chamber?
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Yeah just a bit. Everything still seats snug and it still extracts it with no issue. I read somewhere else that someone did this and they have had no issues since, I wouldn’t have touched it if it was a better receiver though.
 
Yeah just a bit. Everything still seats snug and it still extracts it with no issue. I read somewhere else that someone did this and they have had no issues since, I wouldn’t have touched it if it was a better receiver though.

Step away from the demil, and nobody else gets hurt.


As far as I'm concerned you just buggered the receiver AND the barrel... and left the bottom of a 60,000 PSI cartridge unsupported.
 
Step away from the demil, and nobody else gets hurt.


As far as I'm concerned you just buggered the receiver AND the barrel... and left the bottom of a 60,000 PSI cartridge unsupported.

Looks like more in the pic, but honestly I didn't wear it down much, just the bottom lip. But, at this point might just buy another barrel and chamber.
 
FAL barrel has a generous lead in chamfer. If you only touched the lower edge of the chamfer, you will be fine. The picture does look like you did more than should, put a round in the chamber to check how much unsupported before you fire a live round.
 
FAL barrel has a generous lead in chamfer. If you only touched the lower edge of the chamfer, you will be fine. The picture does look like you did more than should, put a round in the chamber to check how much unsupported before you fire a live round.

It looks okay to me, it never seated flush to begin with so it seems like the support it needs is still there.
 

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So I went to the range today. Taped up my gas block to shoot and test for leaks. Shot it and no holes in the paper but when I peeled the tape off there was soot on it. So then I taped up the gas plug and as soon as I fired it blew the tape right off, so definitely has to be the gas plug. Maybe wrong size metric or inch?
 

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Well after talking with (gunplumber) from Arizona Response Systems I decided I'd be willing to sell everything I have as a parts kit to someone if anyone is interested.
 
The gas plug is Inch. Some leak from the gas plug is normal. What is the diameter of your gas plug? My Imbel (Metric) gas plug measured .451 - .452" with a digital caliper. Metric and Inch should have the same diameter.
 
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