Ruger PC carbines. Thoughts?

George P said:

Are you LH or did you reverse the charging handle for another reason?

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LH operators typically run the bolt handle on the right side FYI. You can keep grip on the stock with the firing hand and run the bolt and change mags with the off hand.

Im not left handed but changed mine also. I can grab it better with the left hand. Throw my thumb on the release like a mp40

Krusty said:

I've had mine a week. Love it.

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I'm experimenting...mag release and bolt with my left hand. I am right handed.

1KPerDay said:

LH operators typically run the bolt handle on the right side FYI. You can keep grip on the stock with the firing hand and run the bolt and change mags with the off hand.

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Which is what I do as a LH; was why I was asking

George P said:

Which is what I do as a LH; was why I was asking

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but... the guy you asked has it on the left... so... I'm confused

Was wondering if I was missing some advantage, being LH, by NOT having it on the left side. I do the same idea with RH bolt guns and RH semi shotguns - easier to use my left hand to hold by the wrist to reload.

They look like a ton of fun.

I have a highpoint
But I'm waiting on my stimulus check from Joe so I can buy a Ruger, on my own, without any of my wife's stimulus money
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I have had a PC40 for about a year. I put a Leupold Red Dot sight on mine and love it. It is a soda can killer at 50 yards.I am currently spending my evenings reloading the 40 S&W brass.

I put the Glock Magwell in mine and it’s been a great shooter. Sort of a 10-22 on steroids.

I used blue Loctite on the forend screw because mine kept backing out. Other than that. and an orange-painted front sight post, it’s bone stock.

Stay safe..

I really like my PC Carbine 40 S&W. I installed a Volquartsen 2.5lb trigger pack in it, and along with a Romeo 5 RDS and my Form 1 suppressor, it's fun as hell to shoot.



I also have a Sub 2000 in 40 S&W that I've modified with a slew of upgrades. I actually like shooting it more than the Ruger.

I put a Bushnell TRS-25 red dot and one of the Midwest Industries handguards on mine -- like this:



(Borrowed picture, for educational purposes only ... )

The gun is severely overweight. The fluted bull barrel is a joke on this kind of arm.

My 1943 M1 carbine weighs a pound and a half less yet fires a cartridge almost 3 times as powerful.

All Ruger would need to do is trim the gun down and give it a lightweight profile barrel. The damb thing isn’t an air cooled machine gun. But it looks cool and that’s what earns that bottom dollar these days.

You can get the lower priced Hi Points for about $200. Ugly, cheap and they go bang, reminds me of the AK 47. You can rig them out pretty good too...gets stolen, no big loss though Id be pissed. 9mm. .45 and I hear .380 now.

JCooperfan1911 said:

The gun is severely overweight. The fluted bull barrel is a joke on this kind of arm.

My 1943 M1 carbine weighs a pound and a half less yet fires a cartridge almost 3 times as powerful.

All Ruger would need to do is trim the gun down and give it a lightweight profile barrel. The damb thing isn’t an air cooled machine gun. But it looks cool and that’s what earns that bottom dollar these days.

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Huh? You must be joking. It's hardly overweight. It's a very decent weight for what it is.

You wont get a HI-Point for $200, unless you find a used one. I'm looking for a .45ACP HI-POINT
carbine, and I havnt found on under $300, new.
I have one in .40 cal, and it shoots anything you can put thru it. I like it.

I also have a Taurus CT-40 PC Cabine in .40 cal, and it will shoot better than me. Taurus big draw back is the mags, it came with 2 10 rounders, and they are unobtainium now, so you have treat them nice.
Dave

Bought one soon after they hit with these. Had to order it off the Auction as shops here could not get one. It has been a TON of damn fun. Wife who is very recoil sensitive will shoot it and enjoys it. Put a light/ laser on the underside for her to use as a house gun. Normally slap a red dot on top when I play with it. It has been very ready to eat any ammo I feed it.

JCooperfan1911 said:

The gun is severely overweight. The fluted bull barrel is a joke on this kind of arm.

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Could the fluting be used to bring the weight down a bit? I love the Carbine, but it is gas operated and the Ruger is blowback. Not really an apples to apples kind of comparison. Carbines are also more difficult to locate, magazines are finicky, and ammo choices are limited. Having said that I love mine and won't ever get rid of it. Having said that, the Ruger is much easier for beginners to use, mounting optics, finding ammo, finding magazines, and getting repaired should the need arise.

EDIT: I should add that in comparison to my 1927A-1, the Ruger is quite svelte!

I have one, it’s great, no issues, bone stock, fun to shoot!

is this a scaled up 10/22? Asking anyone who has both. I love my Colt pattern, and my 10/22, may look into one if it is the same idea.

JCooperfan1911 said:

The gun is severely overweight. The fluted bull barrel is a joke on this kind of arm.

My 1943 M1 carbine weighs a pound and a half less yet fires a cartridge almost 3 times as powerful.

All Ruger would need to do is trim the gun down and give it a lightweight profile barrel. The damb thing isn’t an air cooled machine gun.

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That was my thoughts on it too.

The Keltec Sub 2K is pretty darn minimalist, but it shows that you can get a 9mm blowback rifle working at 4 lbs. The Ruger checks in at almost another 3lbs heavier - heck, even the M1 Carbine is an extra pound or so.

The Ruger does come with some features I really ike, like a traditional "Fudd-style" stock and a swappable 10/22 trigger pack, but that 75% extra weight vs the Keltec was a dealbreaker for me.

I believe this is where a Garand owner says something smug about a gym to the AR15 owner...

I’m waiting til they make one with an aluminum barrel shroud and tensioned barrel insert, like the 22/45 Lite models. I’ll take mine in blue, to match my gill-gun.

mjsdwash said:

is this a scaled up 10/22? Asking anyone who has both. I love my Colt pattern, and my 10/22, may look into one if it is the same idea.

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Many who try mine say that. When you shoot the 10/22 then the carbine they do "feel" a lot alike. One of the BIG improvements on the new is the trigger. The old design was famous for having a trigger that left a lot to desire. The new model the trigger is on par with my 10/22's For the price quite impressive.

mjsdwash said:

is this a scaled up 10/22? Asking anyone who has both. I love my Colt pattern, and my 10/22, may look into one if it is the same idea.

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Conceptually yes, although most of the parts don't interchange. The biggest similarity between the 10/22 and the Carbine that stands out to me is the bolt hold open lever.

Mosin Bubba said:

That was my thoughts on it too.

The Keltec Sub 2K is pretty darn minimalist, but it shows that you can get a 9mm blowback rifle working at 4 lbs. The Ruger checks in at almost another 3lbs heavier - heck, even the M1 Carbine is an extra pound or so.

The Ruger does come with some features I really ike, like a traditional "Fudd-style" stock and a swappable 10/22 trigger pack, but that 75% extra weight vs the Keltec was a dealbreaker for me.

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Even the Beretta CX4 barely outweighs an M1 Carbine. But the Beretta has a "pencil" barrel and doesn't have all that added take-down engineering of the Ruger PC Carbine.

I'd guess a non take-down Ruger with pencil barrel would be much lighter. Not sure if Ruger would ever make one like that, though.