Failure to eject with my reloads today

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Try a slower burning powder that will get you over 1100 fps. Often times Glocks with standard recoil springs don't cycle well with lesser performance loads.
 
Once upon a time, AA data carried a warning that below maximum fast burning powders like N0 2 might not cycle European automatics.
Do you have another powder that would let you use 5-7 grains?
 
That max is also what is listed in Lee's Second edition. Are you sure that was the load? Is your scale accurate in that range? I would make some more and try them and try a different propellant.
 
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So, this is fresh off the Ramshot page, and if you're indeed using 4.6, then you're at the top of the standard pressure loads. No worries as Glocks will stand +P loading, but something is darn sure wrong. My first suggestion is that you're not actually getting 4.6 grains. Pull a bullet and reweigh the powder. My second is that the ejector isn't right. Take it back out and reinstall.

Ohh, I don't think you should go into +P loading as yet. If you 365 fires them, the 19 should as well. I'd exhaust other possiblilties first.
 
murf said:
or put the old extractor back in and try your reloads.

luck,

murf
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Yea, on second thought, this would be the right way. Check the ejector install and then pull a bullet.

I screwed up an ejector spring change on a Kahr. I picked it up when I test tried using snap cases (inert). I use them after all teardowns.

Or better yet, do both.
 
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So, this is fresh off the Ramshot page, and if you're indeed using 4.6, then you're at the top of the standard pressure loads. No worries as Glocks will stand +P loading, but something is darn sure wrong. My first suggestion is that you're not actually getting 4.6 grains. Pull a bullet and reweigh the powder. My second is that the ejector isn't right. Take it back out and reinstall.

Ohh, I don't think you should go into +P loading as yet. If you 365 fires them, the 19 should as well. I'd exhaust other possiblilties first.
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It's very possible that I am not getting exactly 4.6. I had made 100 rounds. Somewhere in the middle of making those 100 rounds I tightened up the drum on my powder measure because a few flakes were escaping with each pull. So, they may have been a bit light, but still within the range. I just went and did 15 measures and 14 of them came out to 4.6. One was 4.7. I'll have to make some new ones now that I am pretty confident about the consistency.
 
I get mostly brass to the face with the old ejector. BTW, people keep saying extractor. It's the ejector I changed. But if I continue having problems after a thorough cleaning and lube with consistent reloads, I may change it back to see what happens.
 
Stefan A said:
How will a slower powder help? Plus, can you recommend one?
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you don’t necessarily have to redline the load to get good velocity.

personally, if the factory rounds are ejecting, the new ejector is probably good. I would hazard a guess, based now on what we know, is the light rounds are short cycling the slide... just enough where the new ejector pushes the case off the extractor, wedging it in the chamber. I wouldn’t venture past your current load... I did that with my HiPower once upon a time and got into trouble. I would shorten your OAL a bit and see if that help the cycling.
 
Stefan A said:
That was all fine.
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If the lighter loads cycled fine, I would back off the charge a bit and try them again. Did you shoot them before or after changing your ejector?

Charlie98 said:
you don’t necessarily have to redline the load to get good velocity.

personally, if the factory rounds are ejecting, the new ejector is probably good. I would hazard a guess, based now on what we know, is the light rounds are short cycling the slide... just enough where the new ejector pushes the case off the extractor, wedging it in the chamber. I wouldn’t venture past your current load... I did that with my HiPower once upon a time and got into trouble. I would shorten your OAL a bit and see if that help the cycling.
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And I agree with this ^^.

But you also said:

Stefan A said:
It's very possible that I am not getting exactly 4.6. I had made 100 rounds. Somewhere in the middle of making those 100 rounds I tightened up the drum on my powder measure because a few flakes were escaping with each pull. So, they may have been a bit light, but still within the range. I just went and did 15 measures and 14 of them came out to 4.6. One was 4.7. I'll have to make some new ones now that I am pretty confident about the consistency.
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So during your reloading you changed something, and now your reloads don't eject.

Sure sounds like a light load, but I would verify my scale and wouldn't go over book max.

chris
 
I doubt burn rate has anything to do with this issue. Zip is very similar to W231 and Unique, and countless 9mm have been loaded with all.

In your original post, you mentioned that your P365 has no problem with this load. If anything, I would expect the dual spring 365 to have more problems than the single spring 19.

If it were me, I'd reboot. Do it all over again. Take out the ejector and compare it to the original. Pull a bullet and check powder weight. Check the powder container to make sure I've got the right stuff - I mean I'd do it ALLover again from scratch. Very slowly and carefully.

You mentioned primer drag. Do you get in both guns? Seated deep enough?
 
Did the reloads pass the plunk test in your barrel? They could spin freely when plunked?
The numbers on your reloads look fine. An incomplete crimp can cause many issues though.
 
You say you are too new to reloading to to figure this out....how are you weighing the charge? Are you sure of your powder measurement? If using a beam scale, is the poise set correctly?

Does the extractor move freely tosnap over the cart. rim? Does the cart. feed onto the extractor from the mag? You replaced the ejector; does it move freely?
 
PWC said:
You say you are too new to reloading to to figure this out....how are you weighing the charge? Are you sure of your powder measurement? If using a beam scale, is the poise set correctly?

Does the extractor move freely tosnap over the cart. rim? Does the cart. feed onto the extractor from the mag? You replaced the ejector; does it move freely?
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Yes, this is what brought my comment about using snap caps or inert ammo after a repair. Are you by chance having to smack the back of the slide to get the extractor seated?
 
I've never seen rectangular firing pin drag on anything but Glock; that would elimimate the Sig.
 
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