We are under assault.

TomJ said:

I won't make predictions, however there are two things which have me concerned. First, I'm guessing the Dems have learned that they may have two years to push through their policies, as maintaining control of the house is not guaranteed, as we've seen on the past. It's not unreasonable to think they'll go for broke and push through whatever anti 2A laws they can to appease the far left. Second, there's no one to stop them from doing what they want, as the MSM not only does not hold them accountable but outright lies to protect them and the major social media companies silence opposing points of view.

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Indeed!

Even if they pass the proposals, will they enforce the new laws? They don't enforce the current laws so my guess is they will not enforce the new proposed laws if passed. They will just pass more laws.

It really will come down to the states. Either they will enforce it or they won’t. That’s why we are seeing some of the states working on becoming 2nd amendment sanctuaries. Just one more division in America. That also brings in the question of how far will they go to force state compliance? I mean what’s next are they gonna sanction states in their own country to try to force compliance? At this point nothing would surprise me. The AOC said we need to get rid of all the cows because they produce too much methane. That could lead to a punishable crime for farting lol

Off thread but to lighten up an otherwise gloomy thread....

That could lead to a punishable crime for farting lol

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No but you would have to have a "Crapalitick" converter on your butt...

AlexanderA said:

Stop with the alarmism. Gun bills are going nowhere. Just look at the congressional math. The Democrats have tiny margins and little political capital, which they will have to spend on the major crises confronting the country. And they are not unified in being antigun.

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Yeah, and the Titanic was just stopping to pick up some ice for the bar...

Typically threads like this are locked down quickly here. That this one hasn't been yet, well, it has my attention.

Fyrstyk said:

I'm sure the criminals will rush to get their guns registered, pay the taxes, get the insurance and pay for the license.

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This isn't about criminals, this about controlling us the law abiding.

Bacon buster said:

It really will come down to the states. Either they will enforce it or they won’t. That’s why we are seeing some of the states working on becoming 2nd amendment sanctuaries. Just one more division in America. That also brings in the question of how far will they go to force state compliance? I mean what’s next are they gonna sanction states in their own country to try to force compliance? At this point nothing would surprise me. The AOC said we need to get rid of all the cows because they produce too much methane. That could lead to a punishable crime for farting lol

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They would threaten to withold Federal funding for schools, law enforcement, infrastructure, etc. This- mixed with some degree of stepped up raids and sting operations by Federal agents.

Sin Nombre said:

Typically threads like this are locked down quickly here.

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Recently, there were rarely more than one or two active posts, a couple of legal scholars, and tumbleweeds blowing through here. Cue Strother Martin voice: because Frank liked it that way.

Is Frank doing okay? Did a decree come from above to open up this forum?

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Yeah, I think we have wandered off the OP's intent. No, the satellite does not beam instructions to the moderators.

Closed.

Fine Figure of a Man said:

I'm wondering why +/-2500 counties should have to secede from +/-500 counties?

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It's actually only about 50 Counties (of ±3000) that have 50% of the US (gross) population. It's about 30 Counties that have half the electorate (along Party lines).

EXECUTIVE ORDERS:

On this subject, the President cannot legislate through Executive Orders. That is the sole domain of Congress. However, he CAN clarify a stand/interpretation where the existing laws may be vague or otherwise unclear.

(The attorneys on the site feel free to expound on my understanding here.)


H.R. 127:

It won't pass for a variety of reasons. One of which is the fact that, despite a significant number of politicians in Congress having a law background, it's readily apparent why they're in politics and not the attorney business.

There are too many things in the bill which have been shot down in the past. Requiring a license for possession of firearms and ammunition, for example, is an outright infringement of a clearly protected right within the Constitution. (Note that I did not say it is a Constitutional right. There's a difference.) You can't pre-emptively license a right. The right exists, and to remove that right (or deny it) requires due process.

Likewise, a federal firearms registration database has been addressed before, as well. It's against federal law.

Requiring a psychological evaluation means providing medical information in order to qualify for or exercise a right.

And I have NO idea where this "firearms insurance" comes from...except as an added (significant) expense to exercise a right.

I don't think this bill can go anywhere. Even watered down, it would not amount to any improvement over existing laws once you cut all the chaff out. And while the Democrats have the majority in the House and Senate right now (Counting the VP in the Senate), they do NOT have enough to risk the 2022 elections over. (Though they're sure to try anyway.)

Regardless, let your representative know your feelings...and by "representative", I mean ALL of your representatives, whether they're politically aligned with you or not.

“H.R.127”

As has likely already been correctly noted: we are not ‘under assault.’

Such ‘legislation’ is introduced every session.

It has no cosponsors.

It has been assigned to a committee it will never leave.

It has zero chance of passing.

It’s best to address these facts only, not engage in baseless demagoguery.