Is Remington still making rifles or is there a pause in production?

George P said:

Remington firearms are not being made by Vista who is making the ammo. Roundhill bought the firearm business (except for Marlin); supposedly they are close to getting their mfg. FFL and soon to starting up production again.

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The local press had an article last fall about Vista buying all the equipment out of the Huntsville plant. Was Remington just making ammo there? I admit I don't know anything about the plant here, but I just assumed it was manufacturing firearms, not ammo?

mdauben said:

The local press had an article last fall about Vista buying all the equipment out of the Huntsville plant. Was Remington just making ammo there? I admit I don't know anything about the plant here, but I just assumed it was manufacturing firearms, not ammo?

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That article was very wrong. Vista got only a very small amount equipment out of Huntsville, just from the R&D side. There was no ammo manufactured in Huntsville outside of the R&D group. Ruger got a fair bit more of the equipment than Vista since all the Marlin rimfires rifles were made in Huntsville. That said a large portion of manufacturing equipment stayed and is technically Roundhills' if they can figure out how (money wise) to get it moved. Huntsville housed a large portion of Remington marketing, the entire R&D group, and a large manufacturing facility. The produced all of the handguns, Marlin rimfires, the Remington 783, Bushmaster, DPMS and AAC products. Illion NY produced the balance of the Remington firearms and the Marlin centerfire rifles.

These are sad times. I know things change all the time, but seeing Remington, a grand American company, fold it's tent and disappear makes me very sad. I have and have had many Remington rifles and loved them all. My very favorite is my Remington 541S that I bought 40 years ago and has been the best ever squirrel rifle. I very much regret selling my 870 Wingmaster. Sad times indeed.

There was no Chapter 7.

I guess this topic is a good one to get the post count up!

The Federal Bankruptcy judge ordered them sold and sold they are, period.

Almost correct. There was not "order" for sale, but the assets are indeed sold. It sometimes gets to be a tiresome discussion, often filled with harmless misinformation and internet opinions. My firm handles matters such as this professionally so sometimes the small incorrect statements appear odd to me, but generally this is just another subject for speculation for most fellows.

We will just have to wait and see what happens next. I am curious as to the ultimate outcome too and just hope everything turns out for the best.

Seamaster31 said:

Almost correct. There was not "order" for sale, but the assets are indeed sold. It sometimes gets to be a tiresome discussion, often filled with harmless misinformation and internet opinions. My firm handles matters such as this professionally so sometimes the small incorrect statements appear odd to me, but generally this is just another subject for speculation for most fellows.

We will just have to wait and see what happens next. I am curious as to the ultimate outcome too and just hope everything turns out for the best.

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Rather than talk down to us without adding anything to the conversation you could try to lift us up and educate us on the firer point of this Bankruptcy and all the financial and legal language that goes with it. I am just an engineer so I do what I can with my uneducated (in these fields of legal and finance) understanding of the situations and have no doubt missed some of the finer point and likely not use the correct legal and financial language.

That is a good idea, but frankly there are no finer points to this situation that are available to the public (myself included) other than what has already been published. I have read the filings and seen the available financial information so I might be able to help with general questions.

I am curious about the engineering department in Huntsville. How many licensed professional engineers worked there? I would guess they had a number of LPE's to head the department, and some other folks working in the department. A good LPE is a valuable cog in the wheel.

Vista Outdoors got the ammunition manufacturing and the rights to the Remington brand name. Roundhill Group bought from bankruptcy the firearms intellectual property and some tooling. Roundhill will have to negotiate with Vista for the use of the Remington brand or come up with another name for the firearms business I would think. What CEO went wear and did what, I do not care. Vista Outdoors seems to be spooling up to make ammo. Roundhill seems to be moving in the direction of reviving some former Remington firearms production but in what way and measure and which ones we will have to wait and see. Ruger seems intent on manufacturing Marlin firearms and keeping the Marlin brand alive, though in Prescott, AZ. And the Marlin website has been rearranged with categories but no specifics on models. Seems clear Ruger intends to maintain separation of Marin from Ruger at the consumer level via separate Marlin and a Ruger websites and branding even if not at the manufacturing location level.

Are we going to continue to hate on Remington and everyone and everything to do with Freedom Group despite the scattering of the former Remington Company to the four winds? The Freedom Group hate and Remington hate can be dropped now. The new entities that own all of the divided up former company including Ruger owning Marlin owe nothing to the former creditors, employees or anything else that I can determine. The page has been wiped clean.

I still see Remington firearms on store shelves, less and less, left over product. Whatever comes from Roundhill, good or bad, will not be the same as before and may not even say Remington on them. We will see in due course.

So, no, Remington, owned by Vista Outdoors, is not building any firearms but they are rebooting Remington ammunition. They cannot build firearms because they did not purchase from bankruptcy that property.