H&K P7 prices

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I owned a P7M8 back in the 90s. It is a cool design, and it was accurate and reliable. I found it difficult to carry though because its fairly heavy and the weight is not well balanced, with a heavy, big grip and frame, and short barrel. Hard for a holster to hold to it.

It has a lot of cool factor, but I think there are much better choices for carrying.

To me its a bit like a Colt Python... overhyped for what it can actually do.
 
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Hope it is not too inappropriate to resurrect this rather old thread, but...... I have a NIB H&K P7M13 that I bought in 2002, it is also date coded AC which I think is the same year code. It was an H&K USA (Virginia) import, and I think I recall being told at the time that H&K would stop importing all P7's around 2002 or 2003. (Can any of you H&K experts confirm this?) I've never shot it, yet...... but, considering it. However, this thread got me wondering what a NIB P7M13 might be worth in today's market...... need to let my kids know what they could get for it if I turn into Corona Virus Zombie!
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a P7M13 unfired? A couple of people get in a bidding war on one of the auction sites? I’d say as much as 3.
 
Back in the late 80s a cop buddy of mine and fellow swat team member fell on hard times after a nasty divorce. He started liquidating his assets and I bought a shotgun from him just to help him out. He had a P7M13 that I offered a very fair price for. As hungry as he was he would not part with it.
 
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HK also manufactured the big P7M10 in .40 S&W during that early-1990s era, too.
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yes, used it for bowling pin shooting at an indoor range in Mount Holly, NC in the 90's. First time I went, I had only my P7M8 and the bowling pins were laughing at me despite properly being hit. They did NOT laugh when using the 40 with hot loads..........
 
P7s are very cool. Bought my first in 1982 or so, owned nearly a dozen, including two consecutively numbered P7M10s, and a P7M13.
I guess I sold them all too cheaply, at least by today's prices.

Kinda wish I still had one.

Oh well, we all move forward, right?
 
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Don't recall off hand...somewhere around 2000

None of the German police trade-ins were the M8 model. The German ones were all equipped with the heel release for the magazine and usually had the police markings ground off the slide....some were "repaired" before being sold, but you can still tell. I didn't get one, as they weren't available in CA, but I thought they were selling for < $500.
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Replying to an old post. I purchased a M8 police surplus in the late 90s/early 2000, a M13 w/o magazine in the 90s and don't remember when I purchased the M10 factory nickel with four mags, but M8s were definitely available in the US as police surplus. Mine has a small area ground off the slide, which I assumed indicated which department used the pistol. I never sold them, but due to lack of parts, I never shoot them.
 
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but M8s were definitely available in the US as police surplus.
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IIRC none of the German Police surplus P7s were M8 models. I've never even heard of an M8 commercially available outside of US.

If I had to guess, I'd say they were NJSP surplus

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a M13 w/o magazine in the 90s
...I purchased the M10 factory nickel with four mags
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What is nice is that the M13 and M10 magazines share the same body
 
9mmepiphany said:
IIRC none of the German Police surplus P7s were M8 models. I've never even heard of an M8 commercially available outside of US.

If I had to guess, I'd say they were NJSP surplus


You are probably right regarding NJSP surplus. That was a long time ago and I had forgotten about NJ. The mag release was more a US specification. The M10 mags work dependably in the M13, but they are not 100% identical to the M13..I think that the follower is different.
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I had my P7 with wood grips sent to Robar for NP3 back in the day. Looks just like the one posted earlier in this thread. I couldn't like the plum colored slide. I popped a new recoil spring in it, and it is a great shooter.
 
I have owned something approaching a dozen P7s of various configurations, starting in the early 80s, including two P7M10s and one P7M13.
Yes, I miss them all. And due to current pricing, I'll probably never own another.

But that is okay. Such is life.
As someone once said, you can't own them all. At least not at one time.
Being a serial owner ain't all that bad.

You also can't be (legally) married to more than one woman at one time (and that is a blessing IMHO).

You can legally own as many guns, motorcycles, cars, homes, etc., as you can afford/manage.

Enjoy life, and all it's diversity.
 
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IIRC none of the German Police surplus P7s were M8 models. I've never even heard of an M8 commercially available outside of US.

If I had to guess, I'd say they were NJSP surplus
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I recall reading that the NJSP P7s were not traded in for the replacement Sigs but rather were held and possibly later destroyed. This reported on "Chris's Unofficial P7" website. I've never even seen a NJSP P7 listed for sale.

My personal favorite P7 pic.
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I prefer the PSP for concealed carry. No projecting magazine releases on the sides. Only issue is that you have to practise, practise, practise with the heel release. Works quite well.
 
Heel releases aren't bad. After a few times at the club with this type of release it seemed natural. Even with a normal US-style button release, one sometimes reaches for the heel in case a mag doesn't pop out.
Therefore, it's already a little bit automatic.

When I owned Russian and EG Makarovs, here's why mag changes were very easy:
A) The support hand simply flows in a natural downward motion somewhere near the heel- as long as the handgun stays approx. opposite your face, to be able to see another threat up ahead.

B) Pausing at the heel with the Support Thumb becomes very natural...because...your hand is normally moving downwards (anyway) when it moves towards the Next magazine - is it not?
 
9mmepiphany said:
IIRC none of the German Police surplus P7s were M8 models. I've never even heard of an M8 commercially available outside of US.

If I had to guess, I'd say they were NJSP surplus


What is nice is that the M13 and M10 magazines share the same body
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The HK P7M8 was sold on the civilian market in Germany or do you seriously think that HK caters to the U.S. more than their domestic market?
 
This thread got me curious, just pulled the records on my P7. Purchased in 2010 for $669 “A” condition with box, cleaning tool, 2 magazines and booklet. Still have it all, no plans to ever sell. Don’t shoot it as much as I should, but enjoy everytime. Serial number says 1984, slide has been going more plumb colored over time. Value seems to be a bit more than that these days.
 

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FlyingScot... beautiful gun. Hold on to it. The P7 is one of the finest concealed carry guns ever made. Barrel pinned to the frame, polygonal bore; the very first time my wife fired it at a target in an indoor range (at maybe 15-20 feet), she nailed the bullseye in the exact center. Make sure you have the piston scraper and the wrench to open the striker assembly; the original HK tools are hard to find, but aftermarket "combo" tool are available and work quite well (I bought one recently for a friend, comparing the scraper to a factory original).
 
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I had a plum colored slide on my P7 so I wrote to HK about it. They replied that it could be one or a combination of different factors concerning the plum color. First, it could have been a possible change in the steel alloy that they used when they manufactured those particular slides. Secondly there may have been a slight difference in temperature when they did the heat treatment process. Third, there may have been a variance in the bluing formula at the time it was applied.

So it could have been one, two, or all three possible procedures that caused it to turn out that way!

Bottom line was that the plum color was totally a cosmetic thing and had no effect on the functionality of the gun itself.
 
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FlyingScot

I had a plum colored slide on my P7 so I wrote to HK about it. They replied that it could be one or a combination of different factors concerning the plum color. First, it could have been a possible change in the steel alloy that they used when they manufactured those particular slides. Secondly there may have been a slight difference in temperature when they did the heat treatment process. Third, there may have been a variance in the bluing formula at the time it was applied.

So it could have been one, two, or all three possible procedures that caused it to turn out that way!

Bottom line was that the plum color was totally a cosmetic thing and had no effect on the functionality of the gun itself.
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My P7 M8 had a plum colored slide as well a few of my Bren Tens. Considering the problems Doranus and Dixon had with metal hardening, my vote goes with hardening issues.

I sent the P7 to Robar to perform their magic.

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