New Walther revealed early

I saw that too. I think there may be additional products revealed on 19, 20, and 21 Feb.

I am not super stoked by the PDP. Looks like they simply took the PPQ, changed the slide serrations, changed some texturing, and outfitted it with a slide cut and perhaps a different trigger. I’m sure it will function fine, but nothing truly revolutionary or worth getting hyped up about in my opinion.

Walther boasts about the modularity of the platform. In my observations and personal experience, I think most users buy a pistol and leave it alone or buy a completely new pistol in a different configuration. By the time you’d buy a different slide/barrel or anything else you might need, you’ll likely be close enough in price to just buy a complete pistol. I think modularity might be appealing in the military or law enforcement realm when performing service or modifications, but I honestly think modularity is overplayed in the handgun world.

Also, in my opinion, the PDP is not aesthetically pleasing with the massive slide serrations.

In any case, I’m sure the pistol will work well. I hope that Walther does release additional products later this week, perhaps something more ground-breaking or something that increases competition and drives cost of other products down.

Why would they mess with the PPQ’s trigger? It’s widely considered the benchmark for an excellent striker-fired trigger.

1KPerDay said:

Why would they mess with the PPQ’s trigger? It’s widely considered the benchmark for an excellent striker-fired trigger.

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Agreed. I’m not sure how they could make it much better. I have seen people argue that they thought it was too light for duty and concealed carry use. I don’t agree as I think the PPQ trigger is excellent and that concerns over its duty and concealed carry use can be addressed with a good holster that prevents accidental engagement of the trigger. I think some people automatically assume that lighter triggers are inherently unsafe. While users may be more likely to accidentally discharge a lighter trigger, it does not necessarily mean that the trigger itself is mechanically unsafe and proned to discharging if dropped, bumped, etc.

Going to be hard to be more ergonomic than a PPQ, it just fits my hand better than any other glock.

Cool. Maybe the price will come down on ppq’s.....not that they will actually be available with the gun buying frenzy anyways.

I guess I can always pretend

Too bad it wasn't a updated P99AS compact sized in the realm of the P365.

.455_Hunter said:

Too bad it wasn't a updated P99AS compact sized in the realm of the P365.

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That would be a sweet carry option.

Especially, for those like yourself who don't like partially cocked "DA" strikers.

Hell-fire!

I'm sure that the cutting edge guys can really get excited by it and probably rightly so but, with all the hub-bub they set in motion, I expected something other than another plastic-butt, highly carved up gun - and an update of an existing one at that.

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Todd

.455_Hunter said:

Too bad it wasn't a updated P99AS compact sized in the realm of the P365.

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This I would start putting money aside for. The PDP? I'll get hands on the first one I see to check if it is any more comfortable than the PPQ. Doubt much will convince me to go out of my way to buy.

Honest Outlaw on YouTube just dropped his first shots review. He loved it. If it stays in the $600 range I'll probably pick one up and give Walther a try finally

I like how they bumped the iron sights off the RDS plate. One of the few things that I don't like about my Q4 is having an optic means no rear sight, at least not without shelling out $150 for the other plate they came out with. The modularity is interesting as well, but not sure how practical it would be for me. I would have to handle one, and really like it, to give up my paddle release. And I don't see that happening honestly.

herrwalther said:

I like how they bumped the iron sights off the RDS plate. One of the few things that I don't like about my Q4 is having an optic means no rear sight, at least not without shelling out $150 for the other plate they came out with. The modularity is interesting as well, but not sure how practical it would be for me. I would have to handle one, and really like it, to give up my paddle release. And I don't see that happening honestly.

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Looks easy to get suppressor irons in there too. Are they offering those since the barrel is threaded, I wonder?

Todd.

I thought the texture pattern on the Walthers was a perfect blend. This texture looks much more aggressive, like the M&P 2.0.

Ho-hum. (yawn) Sorry.

sabbfan said:

It’s supposed to be the same texture they use on the steel frame PPQ models. I’ve never held one of the steel frames so not sure how aggressive it is

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It will be interesting to find out. However, I can’t imagine Walther making a big mistake with regard to comfort.

ApacheCoTodd said:

Looks easy to get suppressor irons in there too. Are they offering those since the barrel is threaded, I wonder?

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PPQ sights are some of the easiest in the business to change. The backup RDS plate comes with a taller front sight as well as the higher backup irons.

I know that some of the new Walther pistols have cult followings, but for me, it's difficult to believe this is the same company that spawned pistols with such classic lines and looks as the P-38, the PP, PPK, P-5 and P-88...

Is it just me, or do most of Walther's later offerings (the "Creed" especially) just totally look like Hi-Points that have been dieting?

And now, they're grasping at straws as far as the marketing BS goes:

Developed by Walther to provide a premium, yet functional grip, the Performance Duty Texture provides an aggressive surface to maintain proper grip performance. With its tetrahedron design, it is non-abrasive so there will be no irritation to the skin or clothing of the user.
Walther has pushed the boundaries of testing in some of the harshest conditions to endure this pattern is READY when you are. Whether it’s torrential rainfall, extreme heat, and humidity, icy cold temperatures, or thick mud, the Performance Duty Texture of the PDP will help you be READY when it’s imperative you have the perfect grip.

"Performance Duty Texture?" Seriously? And shouldn't it go without saying that a "premium" grip (whatever that is) should be more than "yet functional?" "Tetrahedron?" Is this what the manufacturers are reduced to? They lost me at snakeskin and "adaptive" grip technology... For the love of all that's holy, the marketing guys need to just stop... this stuff is getting so over-the-top, it's all meaningless. "Pushed the boundaries of testing" -- sheesh, I couldn't bring myself to spend money on one of their new pistols as the hyperbole is so mind-numbing and gag-inducing.

Sorry, Walther fans.

Old Dog said:

And now, they're grasping at straws as far as the marketing BS goes:

Walther has pushed the boundaries of testing in some of the harshest conditions to endure this pattern is READY when you are. Whether it’s torrential rainfall, extreme heat, and humidity, icy cold temperatures, or thick mud, the Performance Duty Texture of the PDP will help you be READY when it’s imperative you have the perfect grip.

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That's kind of funny. My wife and I laugh whenever we hear a car commercial marketing a corporation's "... best ***** ever..." Really, why would you ever make a product that wan't your best to date? Scenarios like Smith and Wesson, not withstanding.

Are we to believe that Walther has found; more torrentially or wetter rain, hotter heat, humidity that is, well... huiditier, thicker mud or are testing at perhaps absolute-zero? And WHO's *perfect grip*?

Ad copy really does beg ridicule in cases like these.

Gotta wonder if it isn't also a desert topping?

Todd.

Holy serrations. I like it but I hope that those slide cuts were chamfered.

I've never owned a Walther, but have a high opinion of the brand. I have always assumed I'd get to at least one of the several models on my wish list. But I find myself rolling my eyes at how over-the-top all that marketing language is. Maybe I'm not their target audience.

Old Dog said:

And now, they're grasping at straws as far as the marketing BS goes:

Developed by Walther to provide a premium, yet functional grip, the Performance Duty Texture provides an aggressive surface to maintain proper grip performance. With its tetrahedron design, it is non-abrasive so there will be no irritation to the skin or clothing of the user.
Walther has pushed the boundaries of testing in some of the harshest conditions to endure this pattern is READY when you are. Whether it’s torrential rainfall, extreme heat, and humidity, icy cold temperatures, or thick mud, the Performance Duty Texture of the PDP will help you be READY when it’s imperative you have the perfect grip.

"Performance Duty Texture?" Seriously? And shouldn't it go without saying that a "premium" grip (whatever that is) should be more than "yet functional?" "Tetrahedron?" Is this what the manufacturers are reduced to? They lost me at snakeskin and "adaptive" grip technology... For the love of all that's holy, the marketing guys need to just stop... this stuff is getting so over-the-top, it's all meaningless. "Pushed the boundaries of testing" -- sheesh, I couldn't bring myself to spend money on one of their new pistols as the hyperbole is so mind-numbing and gag-inducing.

Sorry, Walther fans.

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They make such a big deal of the front slide serrations, but sadly, I'm not a fan of slide cuts on the front.

In a SHTF situation, I don't want my hand anywhere near the front of a gun.