Brian Williams
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I would love a Remington Rolling Block, Calibers of choice are #1, 357 Mag, #2, 6.5 Grendel, #3 45/90.
If you could buy 1 firearm before a big ban...
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wbm
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If it comes to the point that you are no longer secure in your person, place or things then your other "rights" are soon to be gone also. Then what? Do ya just do as you are told and get in the boxcar?
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Howland937
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Yeah, but....does the one you posted say COLT on it? That's worth at least $38k....
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Well, since nobody really knows who has what(Federally), and the time and YUGE $ to try to actually confiscate ANYTHING is SO big, not sure how that would happen(something approaching 10 million 'AR types in the US)......
Armored farmer
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When i was in 8th grade, our janitor came into history class carrying a rifle like this soviet. He told about how he was captured by the Germans and put in a pow camp. The Russians liberated the camp, passed out some rifles like this one, and pointed the pows to the US Army lines.
rbernie
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For some reason, it's become a meme over my lifetime that a gun ban will be enforced actively. History has shown, from 1934 on forward, that is not likely the case. Possessing an illegal object is something that is used to hammer you harder when the state has reason to care about your existence, and until then it's an irrelevancy to them. The issue comes in when the penalties are life-altering, and the likelihood of discovery increased based on use.
The value of an functional object that has to be hidden at all times is pretty low....
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So, some dude is walking around the junior high school with a Russian sub-machinegun and all that happens is that the teachers and students ask, "say, can you tell us the story behind that gun?" THAT'S the America I miss!
Ha! It does actually. It says “45 Colt”. Not saying the 45-70 wouldn’t be cooler though.
Armored farmer
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The history teacher asked him to do it every year.
Tommygunn
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While I acknowledge what you say is true, I am not so certain a new ban will not be enforced actively. The logistics certainly would be a nightmare but I think Biden & Company do have a "burr under their saddle" concerning assault weapons. Biden quiping "these should be illegal, period" seems indicative (amongst other statements) that he has the ambition to actually remove these guns from our possesion.
Of course, what he can force through kongress may be very different than what he has announced during his campaign or on his website. But I'm not sanguine about what's going on inside the "swamp."
Kamala Harris will soon be president and she previously concealed carried a handgun. She must appreciate the average persons right to defend themselves. 
There’s no way she could sign gun control bills that make defending ourselves more difficult without being a complete hypocrite. I’m glad she is a fair person of integrity that will look out for ALL Americans. 
Lots of sarcasm intended.
There’s no way she could sign gun control bills that make defending ourselves more difficult without being a complete hypocrite. I’m glad she is a fair person of integrity that will look out for ALL Americans. Lots of sarcasm intended.
Gordon
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Kamala Harris will soon be president and she previously concealed carried a handgun. She must appreciate the average persons right to defend themselves.
She is the biggest hippo ever !
Lots of sarcasm intended.
Well this will likely be closed soon. And for the record, most politicians are hypocrites.
You could find enforcement in big cities. But you start going out into the rural areas and you’re going to find a lot more hesitation to knock on those doors.
You know I actually a M1 Carbine for sale for $650 online the other day on a yard sale site! I contacted the seller but he never responded.
Damn brother, what town is this? Are there any rentals nearby? My girlfriend and I used to share rent, but we broke up. Then I went into work and got laid off, so I can't afford to live here anymore.
So I know I might have seemed heavy handed earlier but I actually think there's a pretty significant amount of truth to this. I honestly wonder how many Americans would actually jeopardize their lives and the lives of their families to defend their firearm's rights. I think the second amendment to most people has become nothing more than a fringe hobby or something specifically for hunting than it is about being able to fight a tyrannical government. The way the media has been posturing about this kind of rhetoric has made it pretty clear that the general consensus of Joe Sixpack is that people who think the 2nd amendment is about patriotism are, in the very least, sympathetic to terrorists.
People are so damn complacent anymore I really wonder if anyone would do much of anything. If what rbernie is suggesting is true, that might not actually be an unrealistic way to enforce the law. That is, instead of going door to door and actively taking them, they'd just treat it like Marijuana. That is, if they police are over your house for some other reason or pull you over with one or catch you with it, they're just going to charge you then instead of having federal agents kicking in doors.
I didn't mention it during our original engagement but they have already executed raids against private households for pistol braces. To rbernie's point, I think it might be handled the same way bumpstocks are. I'm not sure what happened with that because pistol braced weapons are still being sold openly on the market (case in point, Stribogs or CZ Scorpions are still hanging around my local gun shop).
I guess we really won't know but people are all going to have to deal with a come to Jesus moment if this stuff actually starts happening. It's one thing to talk crap on the internet and it's another thing to actually have to hurt someone over a constitutional right. I'm not sure what people would do.
I miss that America too. My school apparently used to have a shooting team!
Hangingrock
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A 60mm Mortar acceptable range and good portability!
wbm
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Was on the receiving end of one of those in another life...nifty little weapon the 60mm.
Ignition Override
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Tommygunn:
I could easily be mistaken. Biden and Team are so overwhelmed with their confused public relations image 'issues' of science, non-science, the esteemed Dr. Faucci's 'sunshine patriot' "medical opinions" while most kids can't attend schools, that Biden needs to Sound bold (if the audience is carefully pre-selected), for a quick applause.
Our new...eh... leader...knows that political calculations prevent him -- just like his Jedi Master Instructor, Obama -- from Touching guns . Biden also has a pen and a phone.
Let's recall that Obama, even Before his 2008 election, had Zero plans to change gun laws, only healthcare legislation to give people something, and give himself a positive legacy. And Biden is "riding" on both Obama's policy themes and some of Trump's policies and actions.
If anything quite dramatic were not politically Very risky (are they not Painfully aware of "their" slim majorities in Congress--and Biden's weak leadership?), then he already would have signed an Exec. Order at least trying to freeze sales of ARs, AKMs, maybe even Mini 14s etc.
The fact that - so far - Biden is afraid (based on His lack of action) to ban just future Pistol Grips, Flash Hiders, "normal-size" mags says something. They can't even risk banning these features on guns sold months from now---without a horrible incident to boost temporary support.
Biden required a very specific school venue/location which would accept his easy, cheap shot remarks. His speech writers/handlers are also trying to keep the radical loony-tunes faction off his back, to limit their public criticism, hence the bold, "politically correct" remarks.
I'm not naiive, just trying to see the real world factors in the bigger picture
. >>>>>Please contradict me , but explain how these factors create a different picture.<<<<<<
Senators Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema, being on the edge of the extremely slim Senate majority, aren't always marching to the same Party Drummer's rhythm. They are a significant factor.
--A second, extra Czechpoint (formerly D-Technik) VZ-58 for the very hypothetical scenario.
I could easily be mistaken. Biden and Team are so overwhelmed with their confused public relations image 'issues' of science, non-science, the esteemed Dr. Faucci's 'sunshine patriot' "medical opinions" while most kids can't attend schools, that Biden needs to Sound bold (if the audience is carefully pre-selected), for a quick applause.
Our new...eh... leader...knows that political calculations prevent him -- just like his Jedi Master Instructor, Obama -- from Touching guns . Biden also has a pen and a phone.
Let's recall that Obama, even Before his 2008 election, had Zero plans to change gun laws, only healthcare legislation to give people something, and give himself a positive legacy. And Biden is "riding" on both Obama's policy themes and some of Trump's policies and actions.
If anything quite dramatic were not politically Very risky (are they not Painfully aware of "their" slim majorities in Congress--and Biden's weak leadership?), then he already would have signed an Exec. Order at least trying to freeze sales of ARs, AKMs, maybe even Mini 14s etc.
The fact that - so far - Biden is afraid (based on His lack of action) to ban just future Pistol Grips, Flash Hiders, "normal-size" mags says something. They can't even risk banning these features on guns sold months from now---without a horrible incident to boost temporary support.
Biden required a very specific school venue/location which would accept his easy, cheap shot remarks. His speech writers/handlers are also trying to keep the radical loony-tunes faction off his back, to limit their public criticism, hence the bold, "politically correct" remarks.
I'm not naiive, just trying to see the real world factors in the bigger picture
. >>>>>Please contradict me , but explain how these factors create a different picture.<<<<<<Senators Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema, being on the edge of the extremely slim Senate majority, aren't always marching to the same Party Drummer's rhythm. They are a significant factor.
--A second, extra Czechpoint (formerly D-Technik) VZ-58 for the very hypothetical scenario.
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CzechoslovakGunStories
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Quite alright! Pistols are on the list and you won't see me complaining in my thread.
Bro that is the sickest looking VZ 58 I've ever seen. I love that thing. I've heard great things about them, and I actually passed up on buying on right here on THR (which I regret immensely!).
Thanks man, it is my baby
with shorter barrel it is even lighter, lots of accessories available up here, mags are still dirt cheap as well so it is our go-to gun although with BREN2 adopted by the Czech Army it seems 5,56 ammo will be more and more available while the 7,62x39 is getting more expensive so hard to say what the future brings...
CzechoslovakGunStories
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Thanks
they are quite cheap here since the army was replacing them for years now and also the size of the army decreased significantly over the years so for like 460 bucks you can get a decent rifle.... recently a fella was selling the original gunsmith's kit... IMO it looks like a instant soup kind of thing... pour a bit of water, wait 3 minutes and voila - you get a Vz58 
Vern Humphrey
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I'd buy more primers and powder.
This post is not political
Theoretically, let's imagine an outrageous scenario where a firearm's ban is going to happen. In this totally fictitious scenario, you have a bunch of gun grabbers who got into power that are banning all sorts of stuff (although it isn't clear specifically what).
What would be the rifle / Pistol Caliber Carbine / firearm that you would want to buy?
...or would you maybe just buy more ammo
You're fictitious scenario is looking pretty non fiction these days. More ammo is what I would want.
Won’t give the town, but it’s eastern Oklahoma. Remember, we’ve gone all red for a long time.
Maybe I should pack my bags.
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