.22 LR Scope Assistance Needed...

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Scrod314

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First of all, thank you to all of you guys on this board who have helped me. Thank you to all the police officers, military, and first responders on this board who keep me, my family, and our country safe.
I would like to mount a scope on my SR-22 rifle. I have flip up sights on it that I would like to be able to use with the scope on it. What size or type of picatinny riser rail would I need? I plan on buying an inexpensive scope off Amazon. If anyone could post links to an inexpensive scope and the mounts I would need, I would be forever grateful. Trying to keep it at $100 or so. This is a plinking rifle for my daughters and I. Not going out past 50 yards. Thanks again for all the knowledge. I'm sorry if I am basically asking you to wipe my rear end.
 
Are you wanting to co-witness the irons through the scope? For that you'd need to use a non-magnified red dot type sight.

Which is just about perfect for <50yrds.

The Sig Romeo5 has great reviews. I've personally used the Bushnell TRS25, they sell it with a riser to co-witness on an AR.
 
Not co-witness. I'd like to be able to use the iron sights on it by looking under the scope. Does that make sense? Like a riser you can see the iron sights through?
 
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gotboostvr said:
Like see through mounts?

I'd use a 45° offset mount for the irons before going to a see through type mount.
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This. Any setup that would put a scope high enough to use AR height irons under it would put the scope WAY too high above the bore. Its difficult enough with low mounted sights on traditional rifles, but the logistics of it on an AR style rifle makes it basically impossible.

That being said, if you want a scope and irons your best bet would probably be either 45 degree offset irons OR a scope with a QD mount so you can swap back and forth if you want to.
 
BigBL87 said:
This. Any setup that would put a scope high enough to use AR height irons under it would put the scope WAY too high above the bore. Its difficult enough with low mounted sights on traditional rifles, but the logistics of it on an AR style rifle makes it basically impossible.

That being said, if you want a scope and irons your best bet would probably be either 45 degree offset irons OR a scope with a QD mount so you can swap back and forth if you want to.
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I have seen it done before. Spotted this in my old favorite gunshop when I lived back in Ohio.

You can see why it's not a great idea...

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actually.....The ATI taclite stock with a high riser on it MIGHT get you up far enough for a chin weld on that sucker.......

For a cheap one and done option, check out the UTG bugbuster scope ring combos, the tallest ones are almost tall enough for me, and I've got fat head.
 
I didn't realize. Thanks, everyone. So, mount it to my rail. I won't worry about co-witness.
 
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The scope I was looking at is a CVlife on Amazon for like $32. It has good reviews. Do I need to get low profile scope rings for it? The rings it comes with look really tall.
 
Scrod314 said:
The scope I was looking at is a CVlife on Amazon for like $32. It has good reviews. Do I need to get low profile scope rings for it? The rings it comes with look really tall.
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Personally, I'd skip the CVlife and at least go with a UTG if you want to stay in the REALLY low price range.

You could also get a Bushnell Banner under $100 and I think that would be a better option than the CVLife or UTG. Konus has some options under $100 as well that might be worth looking at.

As far as the height, that depends on the objective size of the scope you choose and if your sights are fold-down style. If your sights fold down, you really can go with whatever height you want so long as the scope bell clears. I'd personally lean towards a one piece, cantilever mount to get the proper eye relief on an AR style rifle.

Since you're looking to stay pretty cheap, this mount from UTG would probably work fine:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0793D9X47/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_EYY1ZB41W21ZYM7NJ1F3
 
I personally cant use any of the stand alone high or xtra high rings on an ar.. cantilever, or see thru height is about as low as i can go. A smaller head would probably be able to get by with an high or xtra high.


Ive got a little Hawk 2-7x32 AO scope you can have if you want it. Its a decent little optic, just taking up space.
 
LoonWulf said:
Ive got a little Hawk 2-7x32 AO scope you can have if you want it. Its a decent little optic, just taking up space.
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2-7 would be great for the application, I tried to find one I'd recommend on Amazon or somewhere else but couldn't really find something I'd feel good suggesting someone spend money on. This Hawke would probably be just about a perfect fit.

I was going to offer my Bushnell Trophy Bone Collector 3-9x (since I'm planning on setting up the rifle its on for night vision), but the 100 yard fixed parallax I figured wouldn't be ideal for the planned usage.
 
gotboostvr said:
I have seen it done before. Spotted this in my old favorite gunshop when I lived back in Ohio.

You can see why it's not a great idea...

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Bet ya get a heck of a chin weld with that. The old "see thru" mounts weren't a good idea years ago, but in the early days of "scope only", they offered some sort of easy option if the scope went down in the field. I think "see-thru's" were the answer to the old "tip off" mount.....
 
Scrod314 said:
Do I need to get low profile scope rings for it? The rings it comes with look really tall.
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One answer is to select for QD (Quick Detach) scope mounts. If you want the irons, you just "tip off" the glass.

Now, there will be an issue in the "eyebox" of the scope. Generally, you have only about 2-3" behind the rear lens to get your eye "into" to get a clear view through the scope. Tip-up BUIS often will "eat" a huge chunk of that eye relief distance.

This is why many folk use an RMR attached to the scope, either on top or canted to one side or the other. There are clamp-on iron sights for scopes to similar effect, if not a great sight radius.
 
CapnMac said:
One answer is to select for QD (Quick Detach) scope mounts. If you want the irons, you just "tip off" the glass.

Now, there will be an issue in the "eyebox" of the scope. Generally, you have only about 2-3" behind the rear lens to get your eye "into" to get a clear view through the scope. Tip-up BUIS often will "eat" a huge chunk of that eye relief distance.

This is why many folk use an RMR attached to the scope, either on top or canted to one side or the other. There are clamp-on iron sights for scopes to similar effect, if not a great sight radius.
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Thankfully my fathead means the scopes are mounted so high that flip-up sites usually fit underneath the ocular bell.

The mount I scrounged up to send is a set of low rings attached to a riser that has thumb screws so it should be easily removable.
 
The recurring problem we had with our Junior Program .22s was the 50' focus; most scopes won't give you a clear image that close. We fudged the adjustments to make them as clear as possible.
Air rifle scopes would work, but they are designed for recoil in the opposite direction, and we were discouraged from going that route by a local shop.
Moon
 
halfmoonclip said:
The recurring problem we had with our Junior Program .22s was the 50' focus; most scopes won't give you a clear image that close. We fudged the adjustments to make them as clear as possible.
Air rifle scopes would work, but they are designed for recoil in the opposite direction, and we were discouraged from going that route by a local shop.
Moon
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Air rifle scopes actually work fantastically, especially on 22s used at short range.

There's also a difference in airgun scopes and spring airgun rated scopes. You can use spring rated scopes on everything but you cannot use regular rifle/air gun scopes, unless so rated, on spring piston air rifles.

Spring piston rated scopes have extra/ heavier reinforcements from what I understand, but they're not actually reinforced completely the other direction. Part of the issue with the severe recoil of spring air guns is that they recoil backwards first and then suddenly slam to a stop and go forwards when the piston hits end of travel.

All Leopold's and ClearRidge Scopes are spring rated for instance, but none are actually sold as air gun scopes.
 
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Loon', that explanation sounds much like what we were told when scope shopping, except you were more clear.
Thnx,
Moon
 
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