Revive a leather holster

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I have an old holster, I believe .22 revolver, came with some reloading stuff I bought.
Leather not cracked, just real hard and stiff. Think it might fit my new Single Six. Any one have any knowledge of how to soften leather like this? I hate to throw it away.
 
Good holsters are stiff not soft. Clean it with damp rag. After it dries completely, slowly at room temperature, no hair dryer please, apply a good quality boot polish.

It ain’t a baseball glove!

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If your revolver does not fit well, the leather can be wet molded to your gun to improve fit and retain its stiffness.
 
Mink oil and similar will soften the leather; not usually the right way to treat a holster.
A *very* small amount of extra-virgin olive oil can be worked into the surface, but I'd start with Lexol, as suggested above.

There's a fine line between 'renewing' and 'ruining' leather....

Larry
 
Saddlers oil will usually add some life in it without softening too much just don't over do it. I prefer the Bee Natural brand and if you are in a high humidity area they have some with what they call added protection with a fungicide that helps prevent mold. Good for saddles and tack that stay in the barn.

I really like Skidmores cream for conditioning. It's made with beeswax. More than anything I condition with good old pure neatsfoot oil. (not neatsfoot oil compound! never use that stuff, it will rot your stitching)
 
I also have an older holster that was made in the mid 70's. Would SNo-Seal work in lieu of a beeswax preparation as cited above?

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I have an old holster, I believe .22 revolver, came with some reloading stuff I bought.
Leather not cracked, just real hard and stiff. Think it might fit my new Single Six. Any one have any knowledge of how to soften leather like this? I hate to throw it away.
When a holster is crafted, the idea is to mold it to the shape of the gun it will carry, and then to maintain that shape throughout its life. What I think you are wanting is to re-mold the holster to conform to a slightly different gun shape, and to maintain that. That process is probably more holster making rather than maintenance. This link, and a search using the terms forming leather holster, may help. https://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/52138-wet-forming-holster/
 
The leather that is usually used for holsters is vegetable tanned leather which will naturally dry out over time and should be given a light coat of natural oil (like neatsffot oil) about once a year. Emphasis on "light".
Old dried out leather can be brought back to some extent by oiling but in slow steps, a little at a time with waiting days between coats to properly assess the progress. Rushing will result in cracked top grain. The holster should have some 'give' . Not be hard and stiff like it was made from plastic.
Forming a holster to a pistol is done during the build by first "casing" the leather using water. I have never attempted to "re-form" a holster that had been finished and treated for longevity. Maybe it can be done, I don't know. ???
 
The leather that is usually used for holsters is vegetable tanned leather which will naturally dry out over time and should be given a light coat of natural oil (like neatsffot oil) about once a year. Emphasis on "light".
Old dried out leather can be brought back to some extent by oiling but in slow steps, a little at a time with waiting days between coats to properly assess the progress. Rushing will result in cracked top grain. The holster should have some 'give' . Not be hard and stiff like it was made from plastic.
Forming a holster to a pistol is done during the build by first "casing" the leather using water. I have never attempted to "re-form" a holster that had been finished and treated for longevity. Maybe it can be done, I don't know. ???

Modern holsters (well, most of the professionally made ones, at least) are sealed with acrylic both inside and out. They should not dry out or absorb anything; that's the point of the acrylic finish.

Larry
 
I have an old holster, I believe .22 revolver, came with some reloading stuff I bought.
Leather not cracked, just real hard and stiff. Think it might fit my new Single Six. Any one have any knowledge of how to soften leather like this? I hate to throw it away.

1. Coat inside and out w/ Sno-Seal.
2. Wrap in a black plastic bag.
3. Leave on your dashboard, in the sun, all day (bag-n-bake).
4. Repeat until the Sno-Seal doesn't disappear into the leather.
5. Wipe clean w/ paper towels/bag-n-bake/final wipe.
6. Enjoy your new holster.




GR
 
Modern holsters (well, most of the professionally made ones, at least) are sealed with acrylic both inside and out. They should not dry out or absorb anything; that's the point of the acrylic finish.
True
Larry



I'm sure that's true. I felt the OP was talking about an older holster and I am "old school". Hell, I'm just old, got out of the business 17 years ago.
 
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Modern holsters (well, most of the professionally made ones, at least) are sealed with acrylic both inside and out. They should not dry out or absorb anything; that's the point of the acrylic finish.

Larry

You might be more correct to say mass production ones but many "professional" custom makers do not use the new plastic looking sealers on their goods depending on what it is. And this is incorrect information even leather coated with Roselene or other acrylic type sealers will need treatment over time.
 
can't say for a holster, but I did an old leather gun sling with Ballistol and it seemed to bring it back from the brink of death nicely.
 
You might be more correct to say mass production ones but many "professional" custom makers do not use the new plastic looking sealers on their goods depending on what it is. And this is incorrect information even leather coated with Roselene or other acrylic type sealers will need treatment over time.
If HBE is 'mass production', I guess you're right. I don't know of a single maker-Sparks, Rosen, anyone-not using an acrylic sealer. Anything else would make warranty issues problematic.

And Resolene, if intact, would prevent absorption of any 'treatment'; what would you use on a sealed holster, other than Kiwi polish for appearances?

Larry
 
I clean my holsters with saddle soap followed by mink oil. It slightly softens the leather but not overly so. Make sure you avoid KIWI mink oil as it contains a silicone substance which will make the leather stiffer than you want it. I used this cleaning pair to restore my mother-in-laws duty holster from when she was a homicide detective in the 70s. If it wasn't for the tear in the side, she would have thought it was a new holster when I gave it back.
 
If HBE is 'mass production', I guess you're right. I don't know of a single maker-Sparks, Rosen, anyone-not using an acrylic sealer. Anything else would make warranty issues problematic.

And Resolene, if intact, would prevent absorption of any 'treatment'; what would you use on a sealed holster, other than Kiwi polish for appearances?

Larry
Neatsfoot oil. It will soak in it just takes longer. Leather needs to breath to a point.

You are talking about makers of modern mostly semi-auto carry holsters that they want them to stay stiff and doesn't matter if they look almost plastic because that's the modern look. He was asking about an old holster for a single six so your examples are irrelevant to this topic and my comment. If you reread my comment I said many don't depending on what it is.
 
Don't tell your wife this but there's good hard and bad hard. ;) There's firm enough to hold its shape but still pliable enough not to crack. Then there's hard and brittle and ready to turn to dust. You need to know which it is before proceeding. If it's ready to crack, it needs to be conditioned. Saddle soap, wax or snoseal does not accomplish this. It needs something like Lexol or Skidmores conditioner or oil. I typically use extra virgin olive oil or neatsfoot. It should be applied in very light coats and allowed to completely soak into the leather. You want enough to replenish the moisture, not soften it like a baseball glove.

There are myriad myths surrounding leather and holsters. There are people who will swear until they're blue in the face that oil is bad, no exceptions. They would be horrified to see John Bianchi dip a completed rig into warm neatsfoot oil before applying the final finish. Virtually any maker is going to oil his work before it leaves the shop and no, it doesn't make leather soft. Over-doing it with oil makes leather soft. Makers of modern concealment holsters will warn not to use oil, ever. This is because they'd rather you have to buy a new holster in 10yrs than risk warranty claims at six months because some idiot treated their new holster like a baseball glove.

Not everybody uses resolene and most that do, only apply it to the outside. I don't know what the hell good a pigskin or suede lining is going to do with a resolene coating. I've never used the stuff and will never. I finish my work inside and out but the leather can still breathe and accept oil.

Not every holster from a well reputed professional shop is stiff like Kydex either, nor does it have to be. El Paso Saddlery's work is always pliable and they've kinda been at it for a while.
 
Don't tell your wife this but there's good hard and bad hard. ;) There's firm enough to hold its shape but still pliable enough not to crack. Then there's hard and brittle and ready to turn to dust. You need to know which it is before proceeding. If it's ready to crack, it needs to be conditioned. Saddle soap, wax or snoseal does not accomplish this. It needs something like Lexol or Skidmores conditioner or oil. I typically use extra virgin olive oil or neatsfoot. It should be applied in very light coats and allowed to completely soak into the leather. You want enough to replenish the moisture, not soften it like a baseball glove.

There are myriad myths surrounding leather and holsters. There are people who will swear until they're blue in the face that oil is bad, no exceptions. They would be horrified to see John Bianchi dip a completed rig into warm neatsfoot oil before applying the final finish. Virtually any maker is going to oil his work before it leaves the shop and no, it doesn't make leather soft. Over-doing it with oil makes leather soft. Makers of modern concealment holsters will warn not to use oil, ever. This is because they'd rather you have to buy a new holster in 10yrs than risk warranty claims at six months because some idiot treated their new holster like a baseball glove.

Not everybody uses resolene and most that do, only apply it to the outside. I don't know what the hell good a pigskin or suede lining is going to do with a resolene coating. I've never used the stuff and will never. I finish my work inside and out but the leather can still breathe and accept oil.

Not every holster from a well reputed professional shop is stiff like Kydex either, nor does it have to be. El Paso Saddlery's work is always pliable and they've kinda been at it for a while.

This^^^^^^

Personally, other than light cleaning, I generally leave leather alone until/if it is drying out risking cracking.

If moisture is needed to ward off near future cracking, I pick a product and only put in the effort that the thing is worth to me.

I've used things like...
Hemp hand moisturizer (ingredients showed hemp oil & other stuff of course) on a leather hand wrap on a duffle bag straps. Worked surprisingly well.

A store bought oil/beeswax product for cutting boards worked pretty well on an old cleaver sheath and small hand hatchet sheath... actually I think I used some type of minx stuff for boots on the axe sheath.


The key is to go slow as mentioned by others. Just use enough to get consistent coverage with the idea going into in that you want to let it soak in over a day or 2 and then only another coat as needed. IMO, you only want it to be not bone dry to the touch. Anything more is too much.
 
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This^^^^^^

Personally, other than light cleaning, I generally leave leather alone until/if it is drying out risking cracking.

If moisture is needed to ward off near future cracking, I pick a product and only put in the effort that the thing is worth to me.

I've used things like...
Hemp hand moisturizer (ingredients showed hemp oil & other stuff of course) on a leather hand wrap on a duffle bag straps. Worked surprisingly well.

A store bought oil/beeswax product for cutting boards worked pretty well on an old cleaver sheath and small hand hatchet sheath... actually I think I used some type of minx stuff for boots on the axe sheath.


The key is to go slow as mentioned by others. Just use enough to get consistent coverage with the idea going into in that you want to let it soak in over a day or 2 and then only another coat as needed. IMO, you only want it to be not bone dry to the touch. Anything more is too much.

Sno-Seal - is lanolin and bees wax.

Nothing petroleum based to break down the fibers.

Just natural conditioner and lubricant.

The Sno-Seal "Bag-N-Bake" treatment will make the leather so fresh it'll "moo."



GR
 
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