New member Intro and NLG bullet question

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Hi everyone,

I’m a new member here, live in the Cincinnati area. I’ve been reloading 9mm for awhile with plated and jacketed bullets. I’m moving up to 45 acp now and was searching for bullets and made a bad purchase I think. Wideners had what they were describing as “mixed .451” bullets” the pic showed a mixed bag of plated and jacketed bullets. Well what showed up was 500 x 230gr uncoated lead NLG RN bullets.
My question is what do I need to do to use these things? I have no experience with lead bullets, how do I lube them? Can I tumble them with Alox or should I powder coat them?
I’ll be loading for plinking out of a full size Kimber 1911 which is brand new. I’ll be using HP-38 or TG powder if anyone has suggested data.

On the intro note, here’s a pic of my bench setup, my loading station clamps in my vise, sets up in seconds and can be stored when not in use.

thanks,
Aaron
 
Are you positive that they are not already coated? The photo doesn’t look like bare lead to me but maybe some more photos of the bullets in question would help.
If they are in fact unlubed then powder coat or Alox should work ok.
Also .451 may be a little small for your barrel but you should be ok
 
First, welcome to the forum!:)
Secondly, nice setup. Very clean and organized!:thumbup:

I would powder coat the bullets, if they aren’t. That would be the easiest and most reliable method for me to use those bullets.
I like the powder coated and love the Hitek coated groove less bullets. I also like Hp-38.
 
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I wasn’t sure if they were coated either to me they looked like they were tumbled and are now oxidized. I also think they might be swaged not cast but I’m not sure. I scraped them with a blade and the oxidation easily came off. I put them in lacquer thinner and nothing came off. I just did another test by dipping one in lead patina solution and it easily turned a dark grey so I’m pretty sure there is no coating in them.
I’m ok with making a small investment to PC or lube the bullets but I don’t want to throw good money after bad.
I tested the hardness with the pencil test and they seem to be about 10-12 BHN

Loaded a few pics, and one that was dipped in
patina.

I saw those RMR bullets too late kicking myself I bought these!

thanks,
Aaron
 
Find a load in your manual for a 230 gr. lead round nose bullet. Load up 20 with that data. Shoot and report back to us with the results.

I too believe those bullets are Hi-Tec coated and the only real test for me would be to scrape the surface and see how the coating comes off. Plain lead will scrape very easily and leave a shiny "wound". But, regardless, just load with lead data and shoot (have you measured them?)...

In my quickie research "NLG" is a coating. Acme uses Red NLG coating...

http://www.acmebullet.com/45ACP-230RN-NLG-Coated
https://dgbullets.com/product/9mm-115/
 
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.451 should work fine. About the worst they can do is lead-up your barrel a bit. And, 500 is not such a large number. I'd mic 'em just to be sure what they are, and then load 'em up.

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Be sure your crimp is good and the bullet stays in place.
 
In my quickie research "NLG" is a coating. Acme uses Red NLG coating...
These lead cast bullets are made from 92-6-2 alloy and then are cured in red HiTek coating.....
The 45 ACP 230 RN-NLG is a non-lube groove bullet.....


Both these comments are taken from the ACME website....
 
I am all about powdercoat but finding a sizer may be an issue. If your willing to try I believe you would be very happy with the results... make a small batch and see if they chamber. If they dont then you will need a sizing die no big issue... if these are the only bullets you have and end of show I would tumble lube them in alox. Powder coat is something I pair with casting so that adds a lot of value. If you have zero interest in going that route alox will get you through for the cheapest fix.
 
These lead cast bullets are made from 92-6-2 alloy and then are cured in red HiTek coating.....
The 45 ACP 230 RN-NLG is a non-lube groove bullet.....


Both these comments are taken from the ACME website....

Umm, yep
 
Yeah, NLG means the bullet has no lube groove. Lots of bullet makers are switching to them, and some companies make both LG (lube groove) and NLG bullets.
 
FWIW; I have not see a commercial No Lube Groove bullet that wasn't coated. The only non coated NLG bullets I can remember were/are the factory swaged, soft lead bullets (mostly HBWC). The two manufacturers I linked use the NLG description for their coated bullets, not referencing the lack of lube grooves. Possibly to eliminate confusion for a new coated bullet user? But yes, I stand corrected (? :what:?) for not referencing the missing lube groves when linking to commercial bullet manufacturers...
 
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