.243 Hunting (coyote/deer) load for .243 HOWA Youth Model

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I am looking for a good coyote/deer load (out to say 400 or so yds). The reading I've done indicates a lot of folk like the Sierra . 85 grn BTHP/P. Does anyone have any experience loading/shooting this round, or similar round (bullet composition/weight) out of a 20" 1:10 tube with good accuracy and terminal performance on coyotes/deer ? I have experience hand-loading however, I don't know anyone who reloads .243. so looking for some 'real world' insight/intel.
 
I’ve been experimenting with .243 bullets to use for hunting and have decided the 95 gr Fusions and 95 & 100 gr Nosler Partitions are best for me. I’m getting excellent accuracy and terminal performance from both bullet styles.
These are recovered 95 gr Fusions. They weighed 72 gr – 76% weight retention and 76.2 gr – 80% weight retention.

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With a 20” barrel .243 Win, you may be stretching it a bit at 400 yards for deer, IMO. I took the antelope shown in my avatar at 318 yards with a 90 gr Speer Deep Curl bullet loaded to just over 3,000 FPS with Reloder 17. That bullet was discontinued a few years ago, but is very similar to the Federal Fusion bullet in their factory loads, and recently offered as component bullets. I also would consider the Nosler Ballistic Tips in 95 or 90 gr, their Partitions in 85 or 95 gr.
 
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I've had good luck with the Fusions in factory ammo and prefer 95gr Ballistic Silvertips for my handloads. I would load Fusions when and if I could get some.

Fusions are usually on the shelf between small rifle primers and Charmin TP.
I was very fortunate because a very kind forum member gave me some. I'm saving them for deer hunting.
FWIW, these Fusion/Gold Dot bullets are equally impressive in .223.
 
With a 20” barrel .243 Win, you may be stretching it a bit at 400 yards for deer, IMO. I took the antelope shown in my avatar at 318 yards with a 90 gr Speer Deep Curl bullet loaded to just over 3,000 FPS with Reloder 17. That bullet was discontinued a few years ago, but is very similar to the Federal Fusion bullet in their factory loads, and recently offered as component bullets. I also would consider the Nosler Ballistic Tips in 95 or 90 gr, their Partitions in 85 or 95 gr.

I agree with your assessment on 400+ yds for deer. The 400 yd mark is more related to the accuracy aspect, then the game. I would limit 300+ yds shots to critters such as coyote, cats and the like. A Ruger #1 in .270 is much more well suited for the 400 yd stuff....if a guy had one :D
 
Thanks ya'll. Good info. I'm very familiar with the Partition. Been loading them for over 30 yrs; have boxes of recovered slugs. They are very proven. Familiar with the Fusion, but was not aware one could allocate them in component form. Will look into that. Sounds like 90'ish grains is the 'sweet spot.' Will have to put some stuff together and see where we stand. Thanks!
 
I like 100 gr bullets in my 243 win, but mine has a 1:9 twist. So 100 gr Sierra game Kings, prohunters, hornandy 100 interlock both flat base and btsp. Been loading ramshot hunter, h and imr 4350 gotten great results on paper, wasn't able to test on game didn't get a clean shot.
 
I've owned .243s for a goodly while, and I really like the cartridge. I know its limitations too. It doesn't take much of a drop in velocity to drop kinetic energy a good deal.

I include this link for you to play around with. I just plugged in 2000 fps for the heck of it which would be fairly close to 300 yds. At 3200 (muzzle) fps, the kinetic is 2019 ft lbs. BTW, 100 grain is a little better. FWIW, I zero mine at 200 and the 85 drop would be about 3 MOA at 300. Roughly. Obviously, a .308 150 grain will nearly double kinetic energy at 2000 fps.

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I load 85 grn sierra hpbt or 85 grn barnes xbt for deer over imr 4350. I’ve had better terminal performance with the barnes. I recently picked up some varmageddon in 70 grns for coyotes and other vermin.
 
Hornady 75gr HPBT and IMR 4831 at about 3500fps. Drops hardy Kansas deer quick. As said above, the 243 is all about velocity. Shot from a '79 Rem 700 BDL with a varmint barrel.

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With a 20” barrel .243 Win, you may be stretching it a bit at 400 yards for deer, IMO. I took the antelope shown in my avatar at 318 yards with a 90 gr Speer Deep Curl bullet loaded to just over 3,000 FPS with Reloder 17. That bullet was discontinued a few years ago, but is very similar to the Federal Fusion bullet in their factory loads, and recently offered as component bullets. I also would consider the Nosler Ballistic Tips in 95 or 90 gr, their Partitions in 85 or 95 gr.

I agree with your assessment on 400+ yds for deer. The 400 yd mark is more related to the accuracy aspect, then the game. I would limit 300+ yds shots to critters such as coyote, cats and the like. A Ruger #1 in .270 is much more well suited for the 400 yd stuff....if a guy had one :D
Pertinent specs: 1:10 twist barrel= 85-95 partition, 95 sst (maybe nbt), 100 gr sierra prohunter.
250+yds= 95 gr sst(maybe nbt) or 100 gr ph.
20" bbl+h1000 or imr4451+Sierra= 500 yds (2920 fps out of 20" 1:9.125" chronied)
<75 yds= (maybe nbt) partition, or prohunter.
Done/seen all these firsthand. 85 sierra is TOUGH for closer shots, won't buck the wind as well farther out. 85 speer is soft but good for farther ranges. Have tested both, haven't put either on game though.
 
Depends on your barrel twist, but I have found that I like 100gr for deer. I've primarily used the Sierra Pro-Hunters, I would think most 100gr will work well enough provided you have enough twist to stabilize.

Just read you are at 1:10 so 100 may/may not work you would have to test. You 85gr seems reasonable. Personally I would not go any lighter for deer, and I probably would not go hp. Not saying they wont work just not my first choice.

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This is why I made mention of the kinetic energy of a 150 grain .308 and that’s not a barn burner in itself. Judicious use is required, imho, with a .243. But, I do love ‘em for varmints.
I've killed a lotta critters, never saw k.e. make much difference. I DO use game bullets and keep impacts within their operating velocity windows.
 
Depends on your barrel twist, but I have found that I like 100gr for deer. I've primarily used the Sierra Pro-Hunters, I would think most 100gr will work well enough provided you have enough twist to stabilize.

Just read you are at 1:10 so 100 may/may not work you would have to test. You 85gr seems reasonable. Personally I would not go any lighter for deer, and I probably would not go hp. Not saying they wont work just not my first choice.

-Jeff
Them prohunters will spin in a 1:10 my sister in law has a howa 1:10 and they fly just fine for her, bit of a disappointment for my brother as he had landed several hundred free Hornady 100 gr btsps that weren't as forgiving, LOVE the prohunters on everything we've attempted to thump with them!
 
I've killed a lotta critters, never saw k.e. make much difference. I DO use game bullets and keep impacts within their operating velocity windows.

I'm just saying that I personally include kinetic energy in my bullet comparisons/choices. I personally want and calculate for minimums of around 1,000 ft-lbs for medium game and 1500 for mule deer and elk. You're sure free to do it any way you want.

Bullet choice takes care of most of the problem, and knowing when to not shoot is the other piece. If you spend much time with the trophy boys, you'll know they don't take chances.

It's interesting, or maybe cringing, to see what guns go out into the field on opening day.
 
I'm just saying that I personally include kinetic energy in my bullet comparisons/choices. I personally want and calculate for minimums of around 1,000 ft-lbs for medium game and 1500 for mule deer and elk. You're sure free to do it any way you want.

Bullet choice takes care of most of the problem, and knowing when to not shoot is the other piece. If you spend much time with the trophy boys, you'll know they don't take chances.

It's interesting, or maybe cringing, to see what guns go out into the field on opening day.
1500 for mule deer???? I wanna hunt with YOU sir! Our mulies aren't nearly so tough! I do appreciate personal standards, I've had too many experiences where someone in my group had to finish what someone else started. I used to do the k.e. numbers, then started doing ballistic tests, comparing wound channels, etc, and energy turns out to play such a small part that I've focused mainly on bullet construction and impact velocity. Bullet construction chosen for shot placement is major as well, if we're shoulder breaking, we don't load the sst, if we plan on having calm animals the shoulder busting may not be necessary. Took 1 pronghorn with the 95nbt, had planned on behind the shoulder, herd was closer than expected, audibled to a neck shot, couple months later had the .22-250 with scirocco 2s loaded, the herd was a lil spookier, somewhat on the move, @<100 yds, planted her with 2 broken shoulders. I'm not doubting that your k.e. requirements work for you at all, the k.e. system is simply antiquated as it was formulated in an era where the technology of the time did not afford us the options we have today.
 
1500 for mule deer???? I wanna hunt with YOU sir! Our mulies aren't nearly so tough! I do appreciate personal standards, I've had too many experiences where someone in my group had to finish what someone else started. I used to do the k.e. numbers, then started doing ballistic tests, comparing wound channels, etc, and energy turns out to play such a small part that I've focused mainly on bullet construction and impact velocity. Bullet construction chosen for shot placement is major as well, if we're shoulder breaking, we don't load the sst, if we plan on having calm animals the shoulder busting may not be necessary. Took 1 pronghorn with the 95nbt, had planned on behind the shoulder, herd was closer than expected, audibled to a neck shot, couple months later had the .22-250 with scirocco 2s loaded, the herd was a lil spookier, somewhat on the move, @<100 yds, planted her with 2 broken shoulders. I'm not doubting that your k.e. requirements work for you at all, the k.e. system is simply antiquated as it was formulated in an era where the technology of the time did not afford us the options we have today.

I hear you on bullet profiles. There are a lot of them out there. I use KE as one component in a bullet choice - not as a singular driver.

I have a tendency to pick a bullet and stick with it until I feel there is something to be gained in another, newer bullet. I also don’t tend to have a lot of loads for a single caliber. Some I have two and some just one. I tend to match caliber for what/where.

When I was young, I thought it cute to use a 90 grain 22-250 for mule deer. It worked. I was lucky. I know better now. I know a .243 will do the job. But, as you mentioned, if you have to smash bones, things can get dicey.

I like .270 and 7mag, but I have a lightweight .308 that’s seen more field use for deer. I have absolute faith in all and their loading. .243? As I said above “with judicious use” which brings us back around to range limitations. I’ll not use mine for deer because I have better choices. I wish we had the antelope here that you guys north have. That’d be a good reason to buy a .260.
 
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