Greenwald & Haughton Cleveland Ohio

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During WW2 a series of advertisements appeared in American Rifleman asking readers to sell there handguns to help an Allied Nation - the country was never identified. Automatic pistols especially were requested.
Handguns were to be sent to a company called Greenwald & Haughton who appear to have been gunsmiths.

The likely country intended for the handguns is the UK for the Special Operations Executive, but this awaits confirmation.

Does anyone have any more information on tghis perhaps from the National Archives in College Park or any further information on Greenwald & Haughton. Many thanks.

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AlanD
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Welcome to the forum Alan.

I have no information, but I am interested in this possible piece of history.
 
Welcome and thank you for the question. Unfortunately, I have very, very little to offer. First, within the past two years, I recall reading about a similar request for bionoculars during WWII. This article explained that many people responded, but rather than being shipped to England to help with the war, the bionoculars they donated sat in a warehouse until the end of the war when they were returned to the donors. Once again, unfortunately, I can't remember the source for that article, but an on-line search may turn up some leads that could lead to more substantive information. Second, many years ago, the Ohio Gun Collectors' Associaiton moved their meetings to Cleveland. During this period, I met a fellow who was not a member but wanted to sell some things. One of things that he didn't want to sell was a nice side-by-side shotgun that had belonged to his father. He explained that his father had "donated" it during "the war" and that it was returned to him after the war, with a small tag that listed his father's name, address, and date of donation. It still had that tag attached. Third, you might find some information through the Western Reserve Historical Society. It is basically the organization responsible for collecting and preserving the history of the Cleveland area. You have to remember, however, that the vast majority of people that work at such places are generally very anti-gun, so you have to be very "delicate" about the manner in which you ask questions -- don't want any blue-haired ladies dropping over from a heart attack! There are also a couple of other sources that may prove helpful: the NRA's National Firearms Museum, and the Smithsonian Institution. The official name of the office at the Smithsonian in charge of this area is, I think, Smithsonian Institution, Division of Political and Military History. I don't know anyone there any more, but the head curator that may be helpful is Frank Blazich. Hope this helps and please keep us posted on what you learn.
 
The SOE was a underground hit and run organization formed in the U.K. At one time they numbered over 13,000. They secretly fought against the Axis Powers, and for Allied Forces. Originally, they fought with captured Axis weapons. They were also supplied with inexpensive weapons, such as the Sten. In 1941, the U.S sent firearms, mostly handguns, to them to further the cause. Other countries did the same. The names Greenwald and Haughton are both names from the U.K., so it would seem likely that these were part of this organization or sympathizers of it.
 
I have contacted the Western Reserve Historical Society and the Ohio History Connection for any info they may have on Greenwald & Haughton.
Will post when I hear back.

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AlanD
 
being from Cleveland I have an interest in most thing from its heydays.
 
The National Rifle Association put out a national appeal asking all Americans that had spare guns to donate them. These went to British home guard units (their last line of defense, manned by those not medically qualified or too old for uniformed serivce). Thankfully the German invasion of England never happened.
 
Article by Keefe appeared in the 2015 American Rifleman Throw Back Thursday : Send a Gun to Protect a British Home . The ad appeared in the November 1940 issue of the NRA publication of American Rifleman. Great read!
 
Have heard back from the Ohio History Connection and the Western Reserve Historical Society. Nothing in their records unfortunately.

For those who are interested in the the true story of the American Committee for Defense of British Homes, which is in fact a different matter to the collection of handguns for SOE, in America, I would recommend the following book. To the Last Man, by Malcolm Atkins. The book is about the British Home Guard during the war. This has a very good chapter - which I had the privilege of being able to make comments and suggestions for prior to publication - on the American Committee for Defense of British Homes. This dispels the myth of gifted guns being dumped in the sea after the war. There is also a few pages on the the American 1st Motorized Squadron, a Home Guard unit based in London, consisting solely of American nationals.

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AlanD
Sydney
 
I have contacted the Ohio Gun Collectors Assn to see if they will put a small notice in their newsletter about my quest, but have not had a rely back from them. Is anyone reading this post a member of same, that could expedite matters??

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Alan David
Sydney
 
Greenwald & Haughton.
I have to wonder if G&H were importers/exporters. Which would mean they had access to, or the ability to make, shipping crates and the like. Along with knowing the shipping managers at the various steamship companies.

And, further to the point, of knowing the legal requirements of such things reaching the UK shores. Like making sure they went to MoD rather than Customs & Excise, for instance.
 
In one of the issues of American Rifleman for 1944 or 1945 there is a small piece in the December issue about the firm wishing all their customers a happy Christmas. It seems from this they were gunsmiths. Perhaps they sold guns as well but if so I have never seen a catalogue if they ever printed one.
Why they were selected for this job as opposed to a company that was used to import/export such as Hudson and some of the other big dealers, is a mystery I am trying to find answers for.

Regards

Alan
 
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