CVA Scout V2 TD .44 Magnum

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Finally got my CVA Scout out for some shooting on my backyard range. I had originally mounted a Leupold 2-7X33 scope on the CVA provided steel rail using Warne quick release steel rings. Never shot it because at a local gun show I picked up a little 2.5X20mm scope and it would not work with the CVA rail. I ordered an EGW picatinny aluminum rail and used Nikon (AR, USA made alloy) rings to mount the little scope up. Bore sighted it with a laser. Here are the results after fiddling with the scope, the final sight in at 50 yards is the upside down target number 4, three shot group, cloverleaf:

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I then went to ringing my steel at 100 yards, a 10 inch AR500 gong. Put five shots on fresh paint, all would be deer for dinner. Recoil is not bad, a little snap but completely acceptable for my new backyard deer rifle :).

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The little rifle breaks down completely into pieces with no tools, just pull a lever, pretty cool. It ain't no lightweight, I give it that, though removing the steel Weaver rail for the alloy picatinny and subbing in the alloy Nikon rings for the Warne steel QR rings and the tiny little 2.5X scope did lighten the load noticeably.

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The scope is no longer removable but since there are no iron sights it really does not matter, broken down:

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I’ve been eyeing one of those for my wife, she wants to start deer hunting with me. It looks like it would be perfect with that kind of accuracy! If I could find one in stock anywhere near me I’d bring one home. My LGS has three of them in stock but they are 444 Marlin, I’d like to stick with 44 mag since that’s what I use and now is not the time to dabble in a new caliber. They are a nice looking rifle and the price is very nice. Plus it looks like they shoot!
 
My only complaint is weight. The rifles are on the portly side. At just shy of 7 pounds bare, with rail and scope it is about 7.5 pounds. I think this results from economy of scale since CVA produces several lines of .50 caliber in-line muzzleloaders (Dikkar/Bergara barrels) results in a bull barrel when at only a measly .44 caliber ;). But, not that bad and it does soften the recoil. And the rifle is still very compact.
 
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I bought one of these in 450 Bushmaster. I'm impressed with the quality and accuracy. Good trigger, too. I have two Henry single shot rifles, a 44 mag and a 30-30. The CVA has the hammer lower in the receiver than the Henry so the scope can mount lower on the CVA. I'm looking for a single shot 357 and the CVA would be my first choice.
 
The CVA overall (IMO) is a better design/execution than the Henry and the quality is darn good. Of course, it is a synthetic stock and 416 stainless steel so if walnut and blued steel is your thing, need not apply. Oh, I did not mention it but the trigger is wonderful. It is the best stock trigger I think I have found in years. It is perfect. The hammer pull is a bit heavy thumbing back but the trigger is amazing. And you are right, CVA set the hammer way down so my scope is on low rings and lines up with the comb just about perfect.
 
I have one of these in .444 Marlin, and it is super accurate. I bought it 2.5 yrs ago. I really like it. Can't go wrong with one of these.

Dave
 
The .44 Magnum is a new to me cartridge, never owned one, never reloaded for one, all new to me. Like the .45-70 it seems to be a very flexible cartridge for mild to wild load levels and also like the .45-70, rather expensive thereby further justifying reloading. Kind of a mini-.45-70 I guess ;) . The .444 Marlin is not mini anything, it can near about equal the .45-70 or .450 Marlin and has some ballistic advantages, but I wonder how bullet to rifling jump might affect accuracy using .44 Magnum in a .444 Marlin chamber? That aside, the rifle gets bigger and heavier but does come with a cool muzzle brake and threaded barrel.

I intend to get my CVA barrel threaded. I can see some barely subsonic pig loads and a suppressor (another wish of mine) in the future. I plan either a new (Ruger) Marlin or a Henry in .44 Magnum down the road also. But I am a Marlin guy so I gotta give Ruger a chance to get the 1894 back on the market in stainless steel and hopefully with a 1:20 twist. The 1:20 twist is a must so if not, Henry All Weather Big Boy, here I come, not sure I can wait. I am also kinda leery of the chrome Henry ----.
 
That’s good info comparing them to the Henry, which I was also looking at. I’ve heard the single shot Henry’s don’t have a very good trigger. I love my 44 mag Henry Big Boy but haven’t been able to handle the single shot. The CVA is a bit cheaper too!
 
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That’s good info comparing them to the Henry, which I was also looking at. I’ve heard the single shot Henry’s don’t have a very good trigger. I love my 44 mag Henry Big Boy but haven’t been able to handle the single shot. The CVA is a bit cheaper too!
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I was not bashing on the Henry to be clear. Differences I found:

1. The Henry might be a few tenths of a pound lighter at 6.93 pounds (+) vs 7.2 pounds for the CVA (-).
2. The Henry has a tang operated action (-), the CVA is operated by the trigger guard (+).
3. The Henry comes with iron sights (+), the CVA is drilled and tapped and comes with a steel Weaver type rail (+) but no sights (-).
4. The Henry stock has more drop for use with iron sights (X) and the CVA has a high comb for use with a scope (X), which do you prefer?
5. The Henry is wood and blued steel (X) and the CVA is synthetic and 416 stainless steel (X).
6. The Henry hammer is way forward and high on the rifle thus probably requiring a higher ring (-), the CVA is very low allowing low rings (+)
7. The Henry trigger pull (-) and the CVA trigger is great (++++).
8. The Henry is more expensive (-) and the CVA is well priced (+) and quality, well, it is probably a draw favoring the Henry (X).
9 The Henry requires tools to take down (-) and the CVA is designed for no tools required take down (+++++).
10. The Henry is USA (++++) and the CVA is Spain (Dikkar-Bergara) (+).

*(X) means it is a draw, your preference.

Winner for me was CVA, I did not want a truck gun I needed tools to take down and I did not want a blued rifle that will rust if not wiped down and left behind the seat and I much prefer the trigger guard operated action.

The rail I chose to replace the steel Weaver rail that came on the rifle is alloy and is longer and picatinny type allowing me to better mount my tiny scope further back:

https://www.egwguns.com/cva-centerfire-accura-v2-picatinny-rail-0-moa

The scope I chose (for now, what I want is a Leupold fixed 2.5 ;) ) is the Osprey Global ($40 at a local gun show special):

https://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Global-Standard-2-5x20-Reticle/dp/B079RJ7ND9

The rings are Nikon USA alloy vertical split, super light and I got them at Attwoods on closeout for $9.95, they are NLA.
 
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3Crows said:
I was not bashing on the Henry to be clear. Differences I found:

1. The Henry might be a few tenths of a pound lighter at 6.93 pounds (+) vs 7.2 pounds for the CVA (-).
2. The Henry has a tang operated action (-), the CVA is operated by the trigger guard (+).
3. The Henry comes with iron sights (+), the CVA is drilled and tapped and comes with a steel Weaver type rail (+) but no sights (-).
4. The Henry stock has more drop for use with iron sights (X) and the CVA has a high comb for use with a scope (X), which do you prefer?
5. The Henry is wood and blued steel (X) and the CVA is synthetic and 416 stainless steel (X).
6. The Henry hammer is way forward and high on the rifle thus probably requiring a higher ring (-), the CVA is very low allowing low rings (+)
7. The Henry trigger pull (-) and the CVA trigger is great (++++).
8. The Henry is more expensive (-) and the CVA is well priced (+) and quality, well, it is probably a draw favoring the Henry (X).
9 The Henry requires tools to take down (-) and the CVA is designed for no tools required take down (+++++).
10. The Henry is USA (++++) and the CVA is Spain (Dikkar-Bergara) (+).

*(X) means it is a draw, your preference.

Winner for me was CVA, I did not want a truck gun I needed tools to take down and I did not want a blued rifle that will rust if not wiped down and left behind the seat and I much prefer the trigger guard operated action.

The rail I chose to replace the steel Weaver rail that came on the rifle is alloy and is longer and picatinny type allowing me to better mount my tiny scope further back:

https://www.egwguns.com/cva-centerfire-accura-v2-picatinny-rail-0-moa

The scope I chose (for now, what I want is a Leupold fixed 2.5 ;) ) is the Osprey Global ($40 at a local gun show special):

https://www.amazon.com/Osprey-Global-Standard-2-5x20-Reticle/dp/B079RJ7ND9

The rings are Nikon USA alloy vertical split, super light and I got them at Attwoods on closeout for $9.95, they are NLA.
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Thanks for the link to the picatinny rail, I picked up one of these rifles at about the same time you did and I'm still trying to decide on sighting options. Right now I have a red dot on it, but the picatinny rail would allow me to mount a little 3x bug buster on mine. These rifles are about perfect for a compact scope, but with the factory rail it ain't gonna happen. Hope to go shoot mine next week!
 
Nice shooting gun! What bullet weight were you using? I've read a few reports that these .44 magnum CVAs love 300 grain bullets. I'm looking at one in .44 magnum at the local gun shop but all I have on the reloading bench is 240s. I don't want to have to try to find 300s during this panic.
 
3Crows said:
The CVA overall (IMO) is a better design/execution than the Henry and the quality is darn good. Of course, it is a synthetic stock and 416 stainless steel so if walnut and blued steel is your thing, need not apply. Oh, I did not mention it but the trigger is wonderful. It is the best stock trigger I think I have found in years. It is perfect. The hammer pull is a bit heavy thumbing back but the trigger is amazing. And you are right, CVA set the hammer way down so my scope is on low rings and lines up with the comb just about perfect.
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I've owned 3 CVA's in the past 5 years. Still have them. First was my daughter's "Hunter" in .243 that she used to take her first two deer. Another I bought for a friend to use. Another for my Nephew. Oh, and I have a CVA Optima .50 cal muzzleloader that - as you say - has one of the best factory triggers of any gun I've ever owned, regardless of price.

I can imagine this little single-shot .44 is just a ton of fun, and handy as heck. Especially for backyard deer. Neat gun! I sure wish they would make that same rifle in .308 or 7mm-08 with a lightweight barrel so I could have a mountain pack rifle.
 
mdo said:
Nice shooting gun! What bullet weight were you using? I've read a few reports that these .44 magnum CVAs love 300 grain bullets. I'm looking at one in .44 magnum at the local gun shop but all I have on the reloading bench is 240s. I don't want to have to try to find 300s during this panic.
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I have not reached critical mass on reloading for the .44 magnum, it being a new to me cartridge and the mail and everything running slow as Hades :(. My wife found me two boxes of 50 each American Eagle 240 grain, so I have now expended 25 rounds through it. The rifle is accurate or accurate enough for the purpose :). I have Oregon Trail 240 grain RFN on the way (eventually) and I have two hundred Hornady 225 grain FTX and two hundred Hornady 240 grain XTP and I traded on the forum for brass and dies :).

I have not tried it for 100 yard groups yet but my quick and dirty sight in had it pounding my 10 inch steel plate at 100 yards without a miss pretty much on center. I doubt the bench rest guys need worry, I think it will do fine for knocking deer over.
 
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Newtosavage said:
I've owned 3 CVA's in the past 5 years. Still have them. First was my daughter's "Hunter" in .243 that she used to take her first two deer. Another I bought for a friend to use. Another for my Nephew. Oh, and I have a CVA Optima .50 cal muzzleloader that - as you say - has one of the best factory triggers of any gun I've ever owned, regardless of price.

I can imagine this little single-shot .44 is just a ton of fun, and handy as heck. Especially for backyard deer. Neat gun! I sure wish they would make that same rifle in .308 or 7mm-08 with a lightweight barrel so I could have a mountain pack rifle.
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I also have a CVA Optima V2 inline muzzle loader that I got with Realtree camo and a nice scope for $129 from Walmart a few weeks ago. It's accuracy and quality is what caused me to buy the .44 Magnum CVA. A cool thing, it can use the same .44 caliber bullets as the .44 Magnum using the Harvester green .50/.44 sabots :).

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The NIB and unfired Wolf above with standard breach and Blackhorn breach could be going up for sale. I do not need two inlines and a .44 Magnum ;). So my wife says :( .
 
3Crows said:
I also have a CVA Optima V2 inline muzzle loader that I got with Realtree camo and a nice scope for $129 from Walmart a few weeks ago. It's accuracy and quality is what caused me to buy the .44 Magnum CVA. A cool thing, it can use the same .44 caliber bullets as the .44 Magnum using the Harvester green .50/.44 sabots :).

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The NIB and unfired Wolf above with standard breach and Blackhorn breach could be going up for sale. I do not need two inlines and a .44 Magnum ;). So my wife says :( .
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Great minds think alike. I also use .44 cal bullets in green harvester sabots from mine. Very accurate and very effective.
 
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