Primers preorder...

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Erief0g said:
I decided to see what I could see.
Address a box at the post office
Website appears registered in June.
Phone record search comes up bland with it tied to a spammer in 2015.
No BBB accreditation
Facebook nothing
Google nothing.
No pictures of any storefront.
Website allows you to checkout with pick up at store, but there is no store.

Be safe out there
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This comes up when googling the owner Noah Brooks. https://opengovwa.com/corporation/604614759 He and I have had several email exchanges about business in the last two days. We discussed the ins and out of Alpha Loading equipment, the marketability (ridiculousness) of things like Timber Creek Color Kits for ARs and opportunities that may exist in the market. At no time did he try to sell me anything else.

Regarding his location, he's had this to say "About the address, I don’t list my location because I don’t do business out of my shop and don’t want the exposure. There’s a lot of security risk I don’t want to deal with until my growth gives me the ability to get into a more secure location and possibly serve customers from there. The address is a PO Box at the post office near my location. Unfortunately it’s listed as the Federal Building on google maps and I’m aware of what that may seem like. It’s the decision I’m sticking with at this point though. "

As for identity theft, he has no more information about any of us that any other merchant online. The news is blaring away again how DC is in complete lockdown and awaiting imminent attack from the "conservative right" I don't see the component market softening in the next 30 days or much longer. I may be wrong, I am every week on PowerBall numbers.
 
This is just too perfect...I’m sorry but I’m skeptical by nature (okay, even cynical) and I don’t trust Yelp or TripAdvisor reviews unless there are scores or maybe hundreds of them with at least some being negative.

So here we are in the midst of one of the worst primer shortages in memory and suddenly we have a knight on a white horse out of Washington state permitting us to preorder by paying in full for some third world primers that are just one border crossing away from sitting on our doorstep. Just be a few weeks or maybe just a little longer, but they’re coming for sure....

Then we get Internet testimonials validating the legitimacy and good intentions of the knight and verifying that the horse is indeed white. I really mean no disrespect nor do I intend to cast aspersions on anyone, but until I get my check from the Nigerian prince I’m corresponding with, I just can’t risk this primer transaction.
 
CQB45ACP said:
This is just too perfect...I’m sorry but I’m skeptical by nature (okay, even cynical) and I don’t trust Yelp or TripAdvisor reviews unless there are scores or maybe hundreds of them with at least some being negative.

So here we are in the midst of one of the worst primer shortages in memory and suddenly we have a knight on a white horse out of Washington state permitting us to preorder by paying in full for some third world primers that are just one border crossing away from sitting on our doorstep. Just be a few weeks or maybe just a little longer, but they’re coming for sure....

Then we get Internet testimonials validating the legitimacy and good intentions of the knight and verifying that the horse is indeed white. I really mean no disrespect nor do I intend to cast aspersions on anyone, but until I get my check from the Nigerian prince I’m corresponding with, I just can’t risk this primer transaction.
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Whoa... "internet testimonials validating the legitimacy and good intentions", If this is directed at me I've stated a number of times this is simply a risk I'm willing to take. I'm not trying to convince anyone one way or the other. Life is risk, we all make our own decisions.

I need primers for my own purpose. What are my options? $.30 primers on Gunbroker? Randomly driving around to gunstore after gunstore? Checking and rechecking PowderValley, Brownells, etc? Use rifle primers in pistol rounds?

Rule 10 of a CJ Grisham's Rules of Gunfighting, "In a life and death situation, do something…It may be wrong, but do something!"
 
WeekendReloader said:
I wonder how many primers fit on a container ship? I see multiple websites are now offering pre-order of these same primers.
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One transAtlantic shipping container for bulk cargo? They’re bigger than the house I grew up in. Do a web search for shipping containers and look at the options. Hundreds of the largest containers per ship
 
PADoubleX said:
Whoa... "internet testimonials validating the legitimacy and good intentions", If this is directed at me I've stated a number of times this is simply a risk I'm willing to take. I'm not trying to convince anyone one way or the other. Life is risk, we all make our own decisions.

I need primers for my own purpose. What are my options? $.30 primers on Gunbroker? Randomly driving around to gunstore after gunstore? Checking and rechecking PowderValley, Brownells, etc? Use rifle primers in pistol rounds?

Rule 10 of a CJ Grisham's Rules of Gunfighting, "In a life and death situation, do something…It may be wrong, but do something!"
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Well to some extent, yes it was, but not only you. I was trying to couch it in terms of my innate skepticism with some sarcasm and came on too strong.

I apologize for offending you.

Yes, you’re right it’s a risk decision, and as I’ve said in other posts on this thread, I’m not willing to take this particular risk.
 
I simply don’t have time (kids, work, blah blah) to join the gang of retired guys who crowd around the entrance to all the big gun stores at 9am. If I have to pay more for the opportunity to preorder that’s ok with me. My concern with the outfit had little to do with the idea of importing primers from overseas (about time!) but rather the minimal nature of the website. From subsequent conversations described in this thread it seems like the guys are on the up-and-up, they are also accepting modern payment methods, and I really can’t see a reason for concern (except the fact that you’re buying something for 60 that was on clearance for 20 last year. But times change and 60 beats 250 all day long....)
 
mmb617 said:
Well here's hoping they are legit. I only ordered 2k as $135 was about as much as I'm willing to risk on this perhaps risky venture.

At $60/1000 the price is much better than anything I can find and I'm a big believer in the saying that anything that sounds too good to be true probably is a scam. If I should lose my money I'll chalk it up to tuition in the school of hard knocks. I'm willing to roll the dice, but I'll keep the stakes low.
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Did the same. Fingers crossed!
 
My container ship comment was mostly sarcasm. I know how big containers are and how massive the ships are. :thumbup:

I'm curious how big the shipment of primers is. There are multiple websites offering pre-order. Will the pre-orders be filled as "first come, first served" and if they run out does your order wait until the next shipment (if there is one)?
 
Sir Hiram Stevens Maxim was a struggling inventor until he made the machine gun. Maxim was reported to have said: "In 1882 I was in Vienna, where I met an American whom I had known in the States. He said: 'Hang your chemistry and electricity! If you want to make a pile of money, invent something that will enable these Europeans to cut each others' throats with greater facility.'"

Perhaps they are returning the favor by shipping innumerable amounts of primers to saturate the USA.
 
FWIW, I've found multiple outlets that have primers in stock, none of course in the US. But they appear to be available in Canada

Like here https://www.eaglefirearms.ca/reloading-supplies/components/primers/

and here https://www.wolverinegt.ca/reloading/primers.html

and here https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/reloading/primers

and in Australia

here https://www.rebelgunworks.com.au/collections/primers

and in New Zealand

here https://www.rebelgunworks.com.au/collections/primers

and in South Africa

here https://blazingbarrels-webshop.co.za/product/category&path=5065_002

So apparently there's plenty of primers available, just not in the US.
 
I’m assuming the import process is rather complicated with lots of forms, bureaucratic approval, delays, and other red tape. If it was easier we’d all be importing our own munitions and firearms from the eastern bloc. Somebody is willing to take on the hassle, and make some profit serving a very eager market. And the shortage is definitely US-specific. In the rest of the world it’s business as usual.
 
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